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Multi-port router or router plus hub?



 
 
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Old July 23rd 03, 12:24 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Hi,

I am having Home500 installed this week and need to make a choice of
router. I currently have an 8-port hub and want to hook up 3 or 4 PCs.
Do I need a multi (say 4 or 8) port router or can I use a single-port
router and plug my hub into that?

I would also like an easily-configurable firewall in the router.

Pros and cons and advice much appreciated.

Thanks

O.C.
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Old July 24th 03, 09:22 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"Keith Roberts" wrote in message ...
A firewall should stop incoming connections that are not authorised and let
outgoing connections - some have content filtering that stops outgoing
/incoming but that is a different service.


It might be useful to have a 4-port router which can apply different
firewall settings to each of the 4 ports. Is that possible within one
router?
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Old July 25th 03, 11:41 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Multi-port router or router plus hub?

I think that the features that you are looking for are going to available
only in the top end equipment - most firewalls assume that you will have
three networks at most the untrusted network ie Internet, trusted internal
network that you would put your machines on and DMZ (Demilatrised zone)
where you put servers that can be accessed from the untrusted network as
well as your internal network - a business webserver. The computers in the
DMZ cannot access the machines in the internal network. If a computer in the
DMZ is hacked then they cant reach the other machines.

The setup you are looking for is a more specialised setup. You could make
your own machine to do this with four seperate network cards and configure
the software yourself - lots of work and fun.

Most of the shelf routers that have four ports are just a router with four
port switch all in one unit. Some router just have one port that you have to
wire to a seperate switch to get more ports.

The only way that you might be able to do this is port forwarding where a
request to a web page goes to a particular machine - with other services
going to seperate machines.

Martin Cooper wrote:
(Old Codger) wrote:

"Keith Roberts" wrote in message

...
A firewall should stop incoming connections that are not authorised
and let outgoing connections - some have content filtering that
stops outgoing /incoming but that is a different service.


It might be useful to have a 4-port router which can apply different
firewall settings to each of the 4 ports. Is that possible within one
router?


Hi,
I've never seen this facility in a router, but the ones with
firewalls can usually filter on IP address, so if you use fixed
addresses internally, you can effectively achieve the same thing.
One router that can do this sort of thing is the speedtouch 510v4,
but unfortunately, the firewall has to be configured from the command
line, and the syntax is a pain to get used to, so it's not that easy
to configure.



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Old July 28th 03, 04:27 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Multi-port router or router plus hub?

"Keith Roberts" wrote in message ...
I think that the features that you are looking for are going to available
only in the top end equipment - most firewalls assume that you will have
three networks at most the untrusted network ie Internet, trusted internal
network that you would put your machines on and DMZ (Demilatrised zone)
where you put servers that can be accessed from the untrusted network as
well as your internal network - a business webserver. The computers in the
DMZ cannot access the machines in the internal network. If a computer in the
DMZ is hacked then they cant reach the other machines.

The setup you are looking for is a more specialised setup. You could make
your own machine to do this with four seperate network cards and configure
the software yourself - lots of work and fun.

Most of the shelf routers that have four ports are just a router with four
port switch all in one unit. Some router just have one port that you have to
wire to a seperate switch to get more ports.

The only way that you might be able to do this is port forwarding where a
request to a web page goes to a particular machine - with other services
going to seperate machines.

Martin Cooper wrote:
(Old Codger) wrote:

"Keith Roberts" wrote in message

...
A firewall should stop incoming connections that are not authorised
and let outgoing connections - some have content filtering that
stops outgoing /incoming but that is a different service.


It might be useful to have a 4-port router which can apply different
firewall settings to each of the 4 ports. Is that possible within one
router?


Hi,
I've never seen this facility in a router, but the ones with
firewalls can usually filter on IP address, so if you use fixed
addresses internally, you can effectively achieve the same thing.
One router that can do this sort of thing is the speedtouch 510v4,
but unfortunately, the firewall has to be configured from the command
line, and the syntax is a pain to get used to, so it's not that easy
to configure.


Thanks everyone. I have just ordered a NetGear DG824M.

O.C.
 




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