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ISDN conversion while still on contract



 
 
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Old July 31st 03, 11:36 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Gareth Attrill
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract

Hi,

My exchange is being upgraded to ADSL on the 22nd October and I need
to start thinking about converting my ISDN setup.

Due to BT saying "exchange unviable, unviable, still unviable" and
nothing on the horizon I signed up for ISDN and will still have about
6 months on the contract come Oct 22nd.

I know BT will waive the remaining term of the contract if you sign up
for one of their packages, but does anybody know of another company
that does the same? It sounds very fishy that only BT are willing to
do this, but even having them at 27/month it's cheaper than paying
140ish to end the contract and signing up with a cheaper supplier.

Gareth

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Old August 1st 03, 12:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jason Clifford
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Sunil Sood wrote:

: I know BT will waive the remaining term of the contract if you sign

up
: for one of their packages

Which one though? BT Openworld or BT Broadband? Isn't that anti-
competitive?


Both BT Broadband and BT Openworld offer this option.

Its not anti-competitive as other ISP's are free to offer this option as
well - but choose not to.


How can any other ISP offer it? The ISDN contract is with BT and only BT
can waive their rights under the remaining term of the contract.

Jason Clifford
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Old August 1st 03, 01:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Sunil Sood
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract


"Jason Clifford" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Sunil Sood wrote:

Its not anti-competitive as other ISP's are free to offer this

option as
well - but choose not to.


How can any other ISP offer it? The ISDN contract is with BT and only

BT
can waive their rights under the remaining term of the contract.


BT are not "waiving their rights to the rest of the contract" - instead
the relevant ISP is "buying out" the remainder of the contract from the
BT Home Highway/ISDN part within BT

The BT ISP can do this as they charge a slightly higher monthly fee than
other ISP's - hence they have some money to "play with" - other ISP's
choose not to "buy out" ISDN contracts and instead offer lower monthly
fees...

Regards
Sunil


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Old August 1st 03, 01:23 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jason Clifford
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Sunil Sood wrote:

BT are not "waiving their rights to the rest of the contract" - instead
the relevant ISP is "buying out" the remainder of the contract from the
BT Home Highway/ISDN part within BT

The BT ISP can do this as they charge a slightly higher monthly fee than
other ISP's - hence they have some money to "play with" - other ISP's
choose not to "buy out" ISDN contracts and instead offer lower monthly
fees...


Can you explain how an extra 5 or so can buy out the 100 per month of
ISDN?

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Old August 1st 03, 01:27 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Sunil Sood
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract


"Jason Clifford" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Sunil Sood wrote:

BT are not "waiving their rights to the rest of the contract" -

instead
the relevant ISP is "buying out" the remainder of the contract from

the
BT Home Highway/ISDN part within BT

The BT ISP can do this as they charge a slightly higher monthly fee

than
other ISP's - hence they have some money to "play with" - other

ISP's
choose not to "buy out" ISDN contracts and instead offer lower

monthly
fees...


Can you explain how an extra 5 or so can buy out the 100 per month

of
ISDN?


Hmm - 5 extra per customer/month - while less than 1 in 20 customers is
an ISDN conversion ?

Besides last time I looked ISDN (well HH anyway) was a lot less than
100 (closer to 25/30) per month.

Regards
Sunil


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Old August 1st 03, 07:16 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jonathan Buzzard
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract

In article ,
"Sunil Sood" writes:

[SNIP]

BT are not "waiving their rights to the rest of the contract" - instead
the relevant ISP is "buying out" the remainder of the contract from the
BT Home Highway/ISDN part within BT

The BT ISP can do this as they charge a slightly higher monthly fee than
other ISP's - hence they have some money to "play with" - other ISP's
choose not to "buy out" ISDN contracts and instead offer lower monthly
fees...


You do of course realize that the buying out of the contract only
pushes money around internally in BT? This is how BT Openworld can
afford it and no other ISP can.

JAB.

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Old August 1st 03, 08:48 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Bob Eager
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:23:23 UTC, Jason Clifford
wrote:

Can you explain how an extra 5 or so can buy out the 100 per month of
ISDN?


I'd start by explaining that ISDN is 100 or so per QUARTER...

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Old August 2nd 03, 10:14 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jonathan Buzzard
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Default ISDN conversion while still on contract

In article ,
"Sunil Sood" writes:

[SNIP]

You do of course realize that the buying out of the contract only
pushes money around internally in BT? This is how BT Openworld can
afford it and no other ISP can.


I am perfectly aware this moves money around BT - however I disagree
that this means that other ISP's couldn't afford this option if they
choose to take it up.


Then you are being extremelly dim.

JAB.

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