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[UK-Bug] News .. Plusnet



 
 
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Old December 12th 03, 02:41 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
Andy Jenkins
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Plusnet launch 150k service - but is it broadband ?

"Some 2 months after rival ISP Tiscali launched their 150k broadband,
Plusnet have joined the ranks of 150k offers - but have missed one
important thing."

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Old December 12th 03, 07:59 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
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Plusnet launch 150k service - but is it broadband ?

Not only it isn't BB, they are reselling Tiscali's product !
Well, at least is £1 cheaper, but the connection fee is eye watering
£70.50...
Regards,
Martin


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Old December 12th 03, 09:06 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
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Default [UK-Bug] News .. Plusnet

150k is like 10x narrower than your typical US broadband connection.
Basically ISDN with knobs on.


"Martin²" wrote in message ...
Plusnet launch 150k service - but is it broadband ?


Not only it isn't BB, they are reselling Tiscali's product !
Well, at least is £1 cheaper, but the connection fee is eye watering
£70.50...
Regards,
Martin




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Old December 12th 03, 09:53 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
TX2
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Default [UK-Bug] News .. Plusnet

In newsgroup meesage ,
, a.k.a nick says...

150k is like 10x narrower than your typical US broadband connection.
Basically ISDN with knobs on.


What would you prefer for 15 quid a month?
Why does everyone 'moan' about this 150k connection?
It's ideal for some people.
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Old December 12th 03, 10:39 PM posted to alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband,uk.telecom.broadband
Bob Eager
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Default [UK-Bug] News .. Plusnet

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:59:26 UTC, "Martin²"
wrote:

Plusnet launch 150k service - but is it broadband ?


Not only it isn't BB, they are reselling Tiscali's product !


If it uses more than one frequency (which it does) then technically it
is broadband. The term does not relate to the actual speed.

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Old December 13th 03, 12:02 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
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I think the 'moan' is that this offering is being presented as broadband.
When it isn't really, is it.

Certainly it's fine for some people. Particularly as long as they know what
they are buying.

Henry.

"Tx2" wrote in message
...
In newsgroup meesage ,
, a.k.a nick says...

150k is like 10x narrower than your typical US broadband connection.
Basically ISDN with knobs on.


What would you prefer for 15 quid a month?
Why does everyone 'moan' about this 150k connection?
It's ideal for some people.



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Old December 13th 03, 02:26 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
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In newsgroup meesage , c2mipq402
@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com, a.k.a Henry Hooray says...


I think the 'moan' is that this offering is being presented as broadband.


It isn't though ... at least not by Plusnet?
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Old December 13th 03, 11:03 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband
Henry Hooray
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Techies can hopefully tell the difference. I haven't seen Plusnet's
promotion, but others have in the past made a big thing out of the fast
Internet-connections etc, undoubtedly playing on the similarities in
people's minds between this offering and the 'real thing'.

So: I don't know! It would be good it they haven't, and that be delight me.
But others have certainly tried to pull a fast one, but not as fast as
broadband.

Henry.

"Tx2" wrote in message
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In newsgroup meesage , c2mipq402
@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com, a.k.a Henry Hooray says...


I think the 'moan' is that this offering is being presented as

broadband.

It isn't though ... at least not by Plusnet?



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Old December 13th 03, 05:46 PM posted to alt.internet.providers.uk,free.uk.internet.broadband,uk.media.broadband,uk.telecom.broadband
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In article ,
"Bob Eager" writes:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:59:26 UTC, "Martin²"
wrote:

Plusnet launch 150k service - but is it broadband ?


Not only it isn't BB, they are reselling Tiscali's product !


If it uses more than one frequency (which it does) then technically it
is broadband. The term does not relate to the actual speed.


Exactly. Using the term technically, 100 Mbps ethernet over UTP is not
broadband, it's baseband; whilst some methods of transmitting Morse Code
at around 1 byte per second would be broadband.

The term "broadband" then started to be used by marketing types and
politicos for something different, implying some sense of speed. One has
to accept that words do get appropriated like that. It's unreasonable to
insist the word is only used as per its original precise technical
definition, which had no association with speed. It _is_ unreasonably to
assume that in its new non-technical use that it has any fixed meaning.
Having been appropriated for use in marketing and politics, it will mean
whatever those using the term wish it to mean at the time.

A 150 kbps service is obviously broadband if Plusnet want to call it that
in their usage of the term. It's obviously not broadband to someone who
feels like using the term for speeds of 10 Mbps and above only. Such use
is not related to the original technical term.

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