On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:24:36 -0000, "Amigo Entertainments"
wrote:


Totally agree. I further put it that plusnet make this material and groups
available as a feature to sell their services. Nice to share an isp with
peados and weirdos.
Perhaps your business customers would share the same view?

I am going home now, but are you saying that "Experience thousands of
newsgroups with our dedicated Usenet service" is an advert to come and
download pornography from our service?

Do all other ISPs offer this without mentioning it on their website?

Catch ya Monday....

Regards,

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"Amigo Entertainments" wrote in message
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So let me see, If I choose to snort cocain and plusnet only deliver it
they
are acting lawfully???


(Electronic coke?!? Worthy concept...)

But, I like the cut of your giblets! Great argument:

"If I snort cocaine and a bag of it arrives by post, Royal Mail *has*
committed a crime! And so has my postie!"


Actually not. They have to KNOWINGLY SUPPLY. *Both* words need to be valid.

Is connecting and supplying the same? Is BT "supplying" you with porn if
someone faxes you a picture of a couple bonking? What then - ban faxing?

If ISP's dropped all "warez" newsgroups would you then prosecute them all
for someone posting a "cracked" commercial drawing program in a personal art
sharing newsgroup?

Or should we all simply go back to living in caves because any development
is open to abuse?

I certainly don't let my kids anywhere near usenet or p2p or IRC, and any
email goes through me. No, it isn't nice, sometimes.

Hey, it's not a perfect world, but police *are* better off spending more
time going after the actual perpetrators - rather than the
services/opportunities/technology which they abuse.

"Amigo Entertainments" wrote in message
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Nice to share an isp with
peados and weirdos.
Perhaps your business customers would share the same view?

Perhaps they would as in my experience, many of the paedo's I've seen caught
were downloading from their business accounts in the first place.

Wango

Phil Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:06:33 -0000, "Amigo Entertainments"
wrote:
"good coming from "Organization: Customer of PlusNet"

****wit - if I were not how could I state the facts. Consider working for
nasa - you must have taken up space in class
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Phil Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:24:33 +0000, Amigo Entertainments
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what is this silly line of text on your post for ?

You struggling for something to do today...........
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"Amigo Entertainments" wrote in message
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I suggest the reason you make it available is you enjoy pulling your pud
over it.

Don't talk ****e ya prat.
It's almost impossible to maintain total filtering and monitoring of all
groups and contents contained within.
ISP's should remove what is known to be illegal and work with their users
and similar to help identify any groups that may have slipped through the
net.
I'd be interested in knowing what your contribution to stopping child abuse
on the net is.

Wango

"PlusNet Support Team" wrote in "Do all other ISPs offer
this without mentioning it on their website?"
No. most have removed the offending newsgroups - you have not. The fact that
it has been highlighted to you here publicly, and that you are defending it
sends out a loud and clear message about where plusnet stands on it. Perhaps
you may one day come accross pictures of your own kids on their, eh?

Thank you for confiriming this and that you are happy to sell illegal porn
dressed up as a 'usenet service'.

"Or should we all simply go back to living in caves because any development
is open to abuse?"

There is NO defence for child abuse. What plusnet are doing here is plumbing
CLEARLY LABELED NG'S into homes and businesses and defending that. Not
turning a blind eye to a technology that is being abused - but plumbing a
clearly labelled set of disturbing and illegal contentented news groups into
the home.

That is supply. I'm sure if we take drugs as an anaology then supply is
usually more serious than posession, although in the case of illegal images
this tends to be much narrower.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:16:50 -0000, "Amigo Entertainments"
wrote:

into
the home.

they don't push it into the home, you go and collect it. They don't
supply it either, they transit it. Are BT responsible for everything
said over their phone lines ?

Phil

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(Amigo Entertainments) wrote:

What plusnet are doing here is plumbing
CLEARLY LABELED NG'S into homes and businesses and defending that. Not
turning a blind eye to a technology that is being abused - but
plumbing a clearly labelled set of disturbing and illegal contentented
news groups into the home.

Given that usenet is not a 'push' technology, how are they forcing it
into people's homes and businesses?

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