In article ,
(Jock) wrote:

While this is true, in the event of a ligtning strike frying the
line, BT will repair it.

Wouldn't they do that for an overhead line?

Yes, of course. The point being that the weather isn't going to affect
my ADSL.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

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In article , Jonathan Buzzard
wrote:
Are you certain that nay UK provider is offering illegal
pictures in the UK. Again, be careful before you answer.

I am not certain, but the names of the groups are highly suggestive
that they are carrying illegal material.

I didn't think any UK internet provider, or indeed any internet provider
anywhere, was offering any pictures at all, of anything. Whatever is carried
by these newsgroups (whose temporary content seems to be the subject of
speculation based on their titles), it will have been placed there by
internet *users*, not the service providers.

Rod.

"Jonathan Buzzard" wrote in message
news -snip-
There is no way on earth that you can describe
16 as being early teans and anything before that is illegal.

-snip-
The minimum age allowed under current UK law is 18 as far as I can recall
-snip-

Wango

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:47:07 GMT, G Crozier
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:16:42 +0000, Anonymous wrote:
True, but the actual images would have to have been downloaded by the
OP for them to KNOW that it is child porn. The headers alone aren't
going to prove much.
That was the point I was trying to make.
I think that guy is right in one respect because I think it is now
illegal for UK ISP's to even carry these groups so Plus could be in
deep trouble.

You're wrong on that one.

Unfortunately I do not have any time at all for grassers
and all this aggravation regarding child abuse on the net is very
discriminating against the internet and its subscribers .

What complete and utter balderdash.

Not that it is clear what you mean by "discriminating against the
internet and its customers"

being last night " Friday" I watched a program called " the way we
where"in the program ITV showed four young boys climbing into a bed
naked from the waste down I actually recorded the program because I
record all programs that I like to watch which are transmitted byITN C
4 and C5 so I can zip through the blasted adds so am I guilty of
unintentionally having images of naked children in my possession
!!!!!!!! ???.

Probably, but so what?

If this can be shown in TV programs and in the adds why
is it so wrong for images like this to be available on the net for
gods sake ?

It is all dependent on the circumstances and apparent reasons. It is
normally quite clear from the overall content of a web site whether
the images are "innocent" or are there for sexual reasons.

And similarly with a newsgroup. Not that you are likely to get many
photos of naked or near naked children in groups not dedicated to
sexual matters.

how many adds have you seen showing naked and semi naked
children in them ?in fact you sometimes see them in newspapers and on
billboards .

Very very few.


Its time the police stopped all this "operation ore" nonsense and
concentrated on catching real criminals .

In the opinions of the VAST majority of reasonable people, those that
things like Operation Ore are aimed at are amongst the most serious
criminals there are.

Murder is *maybe* more serious than paedophilia.

--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
HARDWA n. The part you kick.

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In article ,
(·.??.·?¯`Wango?¯`·.??.·) wrote:

The minimum age allowed under current UK law is 18 as far as I can
recall

You;d best have the Sun, the Mirror and the Star prosecuted then. All of
them have shown pictures of topless girls under the age of 18.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

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PlusNet Support Team wrote:

Completely academic if you are buying streams or hosting the news yourself.
Most of your binaries content is illegal and as YOU are delivering it the
buck stops with YOU.

Most other ISP's removed them a long time ago. Depends on if you want to be
seen as a porn supplier or a family isp.

In fact lets be specific about the material plusnet carry

alt.binaries.erotica.preteen
alt.binaries.erotica.preteens
alt.binaries.erotica.teen.female

I could rattle off a dozen more - most of these offering indecent
photographs of children.

Dress it up any way you like plusnet - you peddle porn to sell accounts.