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Old August 12th 04, 02:52 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
sniper
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Default Don't understand bandwidth

My daughter wants to change her provider (small unheard of local company)
but doesn't want to pay much more than the 16.99 a month she's paying now.
PlusNet offer packages from 14.99 dependant on bandwidth. the 14.99 package
comes with 1GB per month going up to 5GB for an extra 6. But what does that
actually MEAN? She's out at work all day so only uses it a weekend and in
the evenings and just uses it for email, online banking and various shopping
sites. she doesn't download music or films or games but she does tend to
just leave it on when she's in. How much bandwidth is she likely to need?
thanks


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Old August 12th 04, 02:59 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"sniper" wrote in message
...
My daughter wants to change her provider (small unheard of local company)
but doesn't want to pay much more than the 16.99 a month she's paying now.
PlusNet offer packages from 14.99 dependant on bandwidth. the 14.99
package
comes with 1GB per month going up to 5GB for an extra 6. But what does
that
actually MEAN? She's out at work all day so only uses it a weekend and in
the evenings and just uses it for email, online banking and various
shopping
sites. she doesn't download music or films or games but she does tend to
just leave it on when she's in. How much bandwidth is she likely to need?
thanks


1GB/month sounds like it will be fine for your daughters use

Just leaving a computer on/connected but "inactive" does not use much
bandwidth

You can confirm this by installing a program such as http://www.dumeter.com/
for a month - it measures the amount of bandwidth used and you can use it
for free with 30 days.

Regards
Sunil


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Old August 12th 04, 04:05 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"Dominic" wrote in message
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sniper wrote:
My daughter wants to change her provider (small unheard of local
company) but doesn't want to pay much more than the 16.99 a month
she's paying now. PlusNet offer packages from 14.99 dependant on
bandwidth. the 14.99 package comes with 1GB per month going up to 5GB
for an extra 6. But what does that actually MEAN? She's out at work
all day so only uses it a weekend and in the evenings and just uses
it for email, online banking and various shopping sites. she doesn't
download music or films or games but she does tend to just leave it
on when she's in. How much bandwidth is she likely to need? thanks


Just leaving it on doesn't use bandwidth. Bandwidth is a measure of the
amount of data transferred e.g. downloading a web site to your computer
transfers that amount of data to your machine.

If your daughter is not downloading large files, and does not do things

like
listen to internet radio stations etc., it is unlikely she will use more
than 1GB in a month.

Out of mere curiousity, why does she want to change providers?

Dominic


Thank you.
It's because the current one (Eastserve - a wireless local community ISP
based in East Manchester) is down more than it's up and support is non
existent.


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Old August 12th 04, 05:28 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"sniper" wrote in message
...

"Dominic" wrote in message
...
sniper wrote:
My daughter wants to change her provider (small unheard of local
company) but doesn't want to pay much more than the 16.99 a month
she's paying now. PlusNet offer packages from 14.99 dependant on
bandwidth. the 14.99 package comes with 1GB per month going up to

5GB
for an extra 6. But what does that actually MEAN? She's out at

work
all day so only uses it a weekend and in the evenings and just

uses
it for email, online banking and various shopping sites. she

doesn't
download music or films or games but she does tend to just leave

it
on when she's in. How much bandwidth is she likely to need? thanks


Just leaving it on doesn't use bandwidth. Bandwidth is a measure of

the
amount of data transferred e.g. downloading a web site to your

computer
transfers that amount of data to your machine.

If your daughter is not downloading large files, and does not do

things
like
listen to internet radio stations etc., it is unlikely she will use

more
than 1GB in a month.

Out of mere curiousity, why does she want to change providers?

Dominic


Thank you.
It's because the current one (Eastserve - a wireless local community

ISP
based in East Manchester) is down more than it's up and support is non
existent.


Have a look at www.metronet.co.uk prices start from 11.75 per month,
this gives 200Mb per month, which is not a lot, after 200Mb, you pay
extra for what you use, but costs for additional Mb's are very
reasonable, and for a low usage user, it seems ideal.
There is no email account included in the package, so this must be taken
into consideration.



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Old August 12th 04, 07:13 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Bandwidth is a measure of the
amount of data transferred e.g. downloading a web site to your computer
transfers that amount of data to your machine.


no,
bandwidth is a measure of the capacity of your link - eg 512Kbps - the 512
Kilobits per second is the bandwidth.
some isps impose restrictions on the amount of data they will allow you to
download on a monthly basis but that is not affected by bandwidth.


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Old August 12th 04, 07:25 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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dave.r wrote:
Bandwidth is a measure of the
amount of data transferred e.g. downloading a web site to your
computer transfers that amount of data to your machine.


no,
bandwidth is a measure of the capacity of your link - eg 512Kbps -
the 512 Kilobits per second is the bandwidth.
some isps impose restrictions on the amount of data they will allow
you to download on a monthly basis but that is not affected by
bandwidth.


No, in this context, bandwidth is the amount of data that can be transferred
in one month. Strictly speaking, bandwidth is the allocation of frequencies
on the cable, but that is irrelevant to the OP's question, as is your post.

Dominic


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Old August 12th 04, 09:02 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Have a look at www.metronet.co.uk prices start from 11.75 per month,
this gives 200Mb per month, which is not a lot, after 200Mb, you pay
extra for what you use, but costs for additional Mb's are very
reasonable, and for a low usage user, it seems ideal.
There is no email account included in the package, so this must be taken
into consideration.


But you can use any existing email accounts you have and you get smtp to
send mail. I have been on Metronet for almost 12 months and my average
bill is around 16 a month. I don't game though.
Usual Disclaimer

Dave

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Old August 13th 04, 02:22 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 12 Aug 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, Brian Morrison wrote:

I think the expression you're all searching for is 'usage cap'.


Indeed ! MetroNet seems ideal for this particular case and has
(see http://support.metronet.co.uk/adsl/free-firewall ) a free
firewall option to reduce the possibility of an attack (I would
recommend "Block commonly abused ports" for almost anyone) but
additionally, rather than using the cheapest USB modem, using
a budget router (as well as having a firewall - I hope there
is already one in place on the daughter's PC) would give yet
another ring of security (in case the MetroNet firewall is at
any time inactive, because of config problem or whatever).

MetroNet is used by a couple of my clients and both are happy
(I have to admit I don't know whether they#re using the firewall
from MetroNet but both have s/w firewalls on their kit anyway).
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Old August 13th 04, 06:17 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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sniper wrote:
My daughter wants to change her provider (small unheard of local company)
but doesn't want to pay much more than the 16.99 a month she's paying now.
PlusNet offer packages from 14.99 dependant on bandwidth. the 14.99 package
comes with 1GB per month going up to 5GB for an extra 6. But what does that
actually MEAN? She's out at work all day so only uses it a weekend and in
the evenings and just uses it for email, online banking and various shopping
sites. she doesn't download music or films or games but she does tend to
just leave it on when she's in. How much bandwidth is she likely to need?
thanks



It's worth bearing in mind, that with most packaged, if you go over the
monthly download allowance, you pay a small surcharge, UPTO to the price
of the full unmetered package. So I would just opt of the cheap 14.99
package and see how it goes...


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Old August 14th 04, 12:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 13 Aug 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Black Shuck wrote:

with most packages, if you go over the monthly download allowance,
you pay a small surcharge, UPTO to the price of the full unmetered package.


If you opt for the 14.99 PlusNet package but use 4.5 GB the extra 4 GB cost
7.60 (4 x 1.90) whereas 7.00 is the additional fee to reach "Premier" (the
uncapped option). I doubt PlusNet charges just 21.99 - far more likely a
customer would be billed for 22.59 in my opinion.

For the original poster asking what 1 GB means - the PlusNet web site does
have example usage concerning numbers of e-mail and so on, but much depends
on *what* people send by e-mail. A while back some people were concerned
about a PlusNet-imposed limit on how big any mail message could be - they
wanted to send attachments of over 10 MB (idiots! :-) There are better ways
than encoding a binary in an e-mail - PlusNet allows 250 MB of storage per
user, so surely much better to upload the attachment then put the URL in
the e-mail to the person and ask them to let you know when it has been
downloaded... the recipient does not need to get a 10+ MB mail when
they are on a 56k dial-up or checking e-mail from a mobile phone, but
they do get a link to the file so download it when it is convenient.

For very, very, low usage, MetroNet could work out cheaper, but the larger
the quantity of data, the greater the benefit of PlusNet's options, and as
PlusNet also offer mailboxes for all the family, etc, etc, etc there might
be other things which appeal. MetroNet has only a 3 month minimum contract
while PlusNet can be used on 1 or 12 month minimum (slightly higher fee to
have 1 month contract, but as a new customer, if one hated the service the
guarantee they offer would cover a migration to some other ISP anyway)...

Just my 2p. Peter Morgan.


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