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Spam blocking of BT addresses



 
 
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Old August 17th 04, 02:35 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Chris Watts
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses

Has anybody discovered that dnsbl.sorbs.net have listed great blocks of BT
broadband dynamic IP addresses as open relay e-mail servers? This is
resulting in a lot of e-mails from BT broadband users being rejected as
spam. The complainant has an .ru address which makes me wonder if it is
mischievious.

Chris


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Old August 17th 04, 03:40 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
John Naismith
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:35:55 +0100, "Chris Watts"
wrote:

Has anybody discovered that dnsbl.sorbs.net have listed great blocks of BT
broadband dynamic IP addresses as open relay e-mail servers? This is
resulting in a lot of e-mails from BT broadband users being rejected as
spam. The complainant has an .ru address which makes me wonder if it is
mischievious.


They're listed primarily beause they are DYNAMIC IP addresses? Get a
clue eh?
--
John Naismith
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Old August 17th 04, 04:23 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Chris Watts
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses


"Paul S. Brown" wrote in message
...
Chris Watts wrote:

Has anybody discovered that dnsbl.sorbs.net have listed great blocks of

BT
broadband dynamic IP addresses as open relay e-mail servers? This is
resulting in a lot of e-mails from BT broadband users being rejected as
spam. The complainant has an .ru address which makes me wonder if it is
mischievious.

Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes away.

Those relays are not available to BT Broadband users - only BT OpenWorld, BT
Yahoo etc.
I subscribe to PlusNet for email and do use their SMTP relays.

Part of the problem with SORBS is that it charges a punitive delisting fee
to remove an entry from their database to "try and encourage ISPs to

behave
more responsibly."

Wait until some lawyer sues them for defamation, then they will change their
tune.

Chris


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Old August 17th 04, 05:18 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Paul S. Brown
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses

Chris Watts wrote:

Has anybody discovered that dnsbl.sorbs.net have listed great blocks of BT
broadband dynamic IP addresses as open relay e-mail servers? This is
resulting in a lot of e-mails from BT broadband users being rejected as
spam. The complainant has an .ru address which makes me wonder if it is
mischievious.

Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes away.

Part of the problem with SORBS is that it charges a punitive delisting fee
to remove an entry from their database to "try and encourage ISPs to behave
more responsibly."

What this actually does is get ISPs to declare their dynamic ranges as
forfeit and do a bare minimum to keep their own servers functional as 50
per incident when you've got hundreds of thousands of dynamic customers,
each potentially with their own b0rked mail servers causing problems, is
going to become very expensive very quickly.

P.

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Old August 17th 04, 05:59 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Waring
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses

Paul S. Brown wrote:

Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes away.


I have a (paid extra!) fixed IP address and have my own SMTP feed on BT
Business Broadband to my Linux company server - yet my IP address is in
netblock 81.138.0.0/16 and hence features in SORBS as being part of a
dial-up block. I've asked BT to change it - and had to request it
likewise of AOL and 1&1 Internet who were blocking my email because of this.

It still kills my email to O'Reilly (not good for someone in the Linux
industry!), but when BT get to finally fix the classification, life will
be a better place.

Ian W.
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Old August 17th 04, 06:00 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
martin
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses

Chris Watts wrote:
"Paul S. Brown" wrote in message
...

Chris Watts wrote:


Has anybody discovered that dnsbl.sorbs.net have listed great blocks of


BT

broadband dynamic IP addresses as open relay e-mail servers? This is
resulting in a lot of e-mails from BT broadband users being rejected as
spam. The complainant has an .ru address which makes me wonder if it is
mischievious.


Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes away.


Those relays are not available to BT Broadband users - only BT OpenWorld, BT
Yahoo etc.
I subscribe to PlusNet for email and do use their SMTP relays.


Part of the problem with SORBS is that it charges a punitive delisting fee
to remove an entry from their database to "try and encourage ISPs to


behave

more responsibly."


Wait until some lawyer sues them for defamation, then they will change their
tune.

Chris


Why don't you go and post your rant and cartoony to NANAE and see what
is said. You'll probably even get the SORBS guys laughing at you as well.
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Old August 17th 04, 06:20 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Paul Landregan
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses


"Ian Waring" wrote in message
...
Paul S. Brown wrote:

Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes away.


I have a (paid extra!) fixed IP address and have my own SMTP feed on BT
Business Broadband to my Linux company server - yet my IP address is in
netblock 81.138.0.0/16 and hence features in SORBS as being part of a
dial-up block. I've asked BT to change it - and had to request it likewise
of AOL and 1&1 Internet who were blocking my email because of this.

It still kills my email to O'Reilly (not good for someone in the Linux
industry!), but when BT get to finally fix the classification, life will
be a better place.

Ian W.


I sympatise with you. I am in the same boat. I run my own mail domain, and
some mails do get bounced back as the source IP is classed with the
dialup/dynamic ADSL users. Its a real pain in the A$$


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Old August 17th 04, 06:36 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Andrew
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses


"Ian Waring" wrote in message
...
Paul S. Brown wrote:

Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes

away.


I have a (paid extra!) fixed IP address and have my own SMTP feed on BT
Business Broadband to my Linux company server - yet my IP address is in
netblock 81.138.0.0/16 and hence features in SORBS as being part of a
dial-up block. I've asked BT to change it - and had to request it
likewise of AOL and 1&1 Internet who were blocking my email because of

this.

It still kills my email to O'Reilly (not good for someone in the Linux
industry!), but when BT get to finally fix the classification, life will
be a better place.

Ian W.


Simple solution to that is to get sendmail to use a smarthost of
mail.btconnect.com

Andrew


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Old August 17th 04, 08:20 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
The Grass is greener
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:23:25 +0100, [Chris Watts] said :-


"Paul S. Brown" wrote in message
...
Chris Watts wrote:

Has anybody discovered that dnsbl.sorbs.net have listed great blocks of

BT
broadband dynamic IP addresses as open relay e-mail servers? This is
resulting in a lot of e-mails from BT broadband users being rejected as
spam. The complainant has an .ru address which makes me wonder if it is
mischievious.

Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes away.

Those relays are not available to BT Broadband users - only BT OpenWorld, BT
Yahoo etc.


Incorrect - have you actually tried ?

I subscribe to PlusNet for email and do use their SMTP relays.

Part of the problem with SORBS is that it charges a punitive delisting fee
to remove an entry from their database to "try and encourage ISPs to

behave
more responsibly."


Wait until some lawyer sues them for defamation, then they will change their
tune.



Cartooney alert.

It's a list, people are using it - it is their right.
  #10  
Old August 17th 04, 09:25 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Chris Watts
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Default Spam blocking of BT addresses


"The Grass is greener" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:23:25 +0100, [Chris Watts] said :-


Use the BT SMTP Relays like you're supposed to and the problem goes

away.
Those relays are not available to BT Broadband users - only BT OpenWorld,

BT
Yahoo etc.


Incorrect - have you actually tried ?

Yes I have tried and it only work to **some destination** addressses.


Wait until some lawyer sues them for defamation, then they will change

their
tune.

Cartooney alert.

It's a list, people are using it - it is their right.

Get your facts correct before you start throwing insults about.
Publishing a factually incorrect list renders you liable to the
consequences. Defamation is but one possibility. It is also an offence
under the Data Processing Act.

Chris




 




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