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Best setup on NTL



 
 
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Old September 3rd 04, 08:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Best setup on NTL

I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless installations on BT ADSL.

What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs (2 x laptop, 1 x
desktop) to NTL?

What equipment does NTL come with?

What equipment do you need to split the connection between 3 machines?

AMO


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Old September 3rd 04, 08:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Best setup on NTL


"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless

installations on BT ADSL.

What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs

(2 x laptop, 1 x
desktop) to NTL?

What equipment does NTL come with?

What equipment do you need to split the connection between

3 machines?

AMO


you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
many cases.

P.


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Old September 3rd 04, 09:50 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Kráftéé
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Default Best setup on NTL

PJB wrote:
"NoSpam" wrote in message
...
I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless installations on
BT ADSL.

What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs (2 x
laptop, 1 x desktop) to NTL?

What equipment does NTL come with?

What equipment do you need to split the connection between 3
machines?

AMO


you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
a DSL router,


It should/must be a cable router _not_ a DSL router...

ie, no modem.


A DSL router will (most probably) have a DSL modem inside it (it's not quite
the same kettle of fish as a DSL/Cable router which won't/can't)...

It will usually have just RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.


Nope it comes as part of the package, & they don't take them back, i.e they
are nominally free (the cost is included in the basic rental price quoted,
even the people who bought their own modem are now paying the same as
everyone else nowadays, one of the reasons I jumped)....

It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
many cases.


If you are going to route/share it forget about the USB option, concentrate
on the ethernet.

To the originally poster.....

Look for DSL/Cable or Cable routers, avoid anything which is specific for
DSL & you won't go far wrong, as for makes/models, you have a wide selection
some will recomend Linksys other Netgear (they've never let me down yet but
i'm busy abusing a DG834g at the moment so things may change) & there are a
few other makes/solutions as well..

To PJB sorry to be so pedantic but you were wrong on a few points & very
fuzzy on others so felt the need to but in...


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Old September 4th 04, 12:26 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Best setup on NTL


"Kráftéé" wrote in
message
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PJB wrote:
"NoSpam" wrote in message

...
I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless

installations on
BT ADSL.

What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's

PCs (2 x
laptop, 1 x desktop) to NTL?

What equipment does NTL come with?

What equipment do you need to split the connection

between 3
machines?

AMO


you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it

must be
a DSL router,


It should/must be a cable router _not_ a DSL router...


actually, I think the correct term is cable/DSL router, as
mine is called ;-) but that's being pedantic ;-)


ie, no modem.


we agree on that bit at least ;-)

P.


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Old September 4th 04, 12:28 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Best setup on NTL


"Graham" wrote in message
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you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it

must be
a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just

RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending

on
your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you

rent.
It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc

via
ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option

in
many cases.

P.




A DSL router is exactly what the OP does NOT want.
DSL=Digital Exchange Line, which in the UK means its ADSL

variant

Ok, let's be more specific, he needs a Cable/DSL router, ok?

P.


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Old September 4th 04, 12:36 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Dominic
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Default Best setup on NTL

Graham wrote:
you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
many cases.

A DSL router is exactly what the OP does NOT want.
DSL=Digital Exchange Line, which in the UK means its ADSL variant


DSL = Digital Subscriber Line (or Down Stage Left!), otherwise it would be
DEL

Dom


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Old September 4th 04, 12:38 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Graham
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Default Best setup on NTL




you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
many cases.

P.




A DSL router is exactly what the OP does NOT want.
DSL=Digital Exchange Line, which in the UK means its ADSL variant

Graham.


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Old September 4th 04, 12:45 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Mark McIntyre
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Default Best setup on NTL

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:26:23 +0100, "PJB" wrote:


"NoSpam" wrote in message
...


What equipment do you need to split the connection between

3 machines?

you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
a DSL router, ie, no modem.


You mean a cable router. A DSL router would be one designed DSL, not
cable...

I was quite horrified to hear some idiot salesperson in PC World in
London burbling about "DSL Routers" being what cable users needed.
Crimminy !

It will usually have just RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.


This is correct, but its not a DSL router, its a cable-ready router.


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Old September 4th 04, 06:50 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Best setup on NTL

"PJB" wrote in message
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actually, I think the correct term is cable/DSL router, as
mine is called ;-) but that's being pedantic ;-)

ie, no modem.


we agree on that bit at least ;-)

P.



Thanx to all that replied. Just one more question - any particular router
recommendations? Looking for a reasonably cheap one.

AMO


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Old September 4th 04, 10:28 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
PJB
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Default Best setup on NTL


"NoSpam" wrote in message
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Thanx to all that replied. Just one more question - any

particular router
recommendations? Looking for a reasonably cheap one.


Everyone has their own favourite no doubt, I use a Netgear
FVS318, but it depends what you want out of the beast.
For Wireless, the Netgear WGT624 suits me.

P.


 




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