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Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1



 
 
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Old October 25th 04, 11:27 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Alfie
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1

I have a DSL-G604T ADSL Modem Wireless Router, and a DSL-2000AP+
Access point on a PC elsewhere in the house.

The router IP is 192.168.1.1 and the access point IP is 192.168.0.50.
The 2000AP+ assigns a dynamic DHCP IP to the attached PC of
192.168.1.100

As these are two different subnets (192.168.0 and 192.168.1) how do I
get the wireless network up and running since all attempts have failed
so far? I suspect it's a 2000AP+ setting but I just can't find it.
Yet!!!

Regards,
Alfie.
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Old October 25th 04, 12:09 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Wab
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1

What is the subnet mask set to?

Kind regards

Wab
"Alfie" wrote in message
om...
I have a DSL-G604T ADSL Modem Wireless Router, and a DSL-2000AP+
Access point on a PC elsewhere in the house.

The router IP is 192.168.1.1 and the access point IP is 192.168.0.50.
The 2000AP+ assigns a dynamic DHCP IP to the attached PC of
192.168.1.100

As these are two different subnets (192.168.0 and 192.168.1) how do I
get the wireless network up and running since all attempts have failed
so far? I suspect it's a 2000AP+ setting but I just can't find it.
Yet!!!

Regards,
Alfie.



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Old October 25th 04, 12:54 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Tiscali Tim
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Alfie wrote:

I have a DSL-G604T ADSL Modem Wireless Router, and a DSL-2000AP+
Access point on a PC elsewhere in the house.

The router IP is 192.168.1.1 and the access point IP is 192.168.0.50.
The 2000AP+ assigns a dynamic DHCP IP to the attached PC of
192.168.1.100

As these are two different subnets (192.168.0 and 192.168.1) how do I
get the wireless network up and running since all attempts have failed
so far? I suspect it's a 2000AP+ setting but I just can't find it.
Yet!!!

Regards,
Alfie.


They can be the same or different subnets depending on what Subnet Mask you
use!

If you want them to be in the same subnet, your mask must be limited to the
common bits of the address ranges - which is the first 23 bits rather than
the usual 24 bits.

Thus, instead of using 255.255.255.0, use 255.255.254.0 or - if you prefer -
255.255.0.0

The important thing is that the bit which is a zero in one range and a 1 in
the other, *mustn't* be included in the mask.

HTH.

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Old October 25th 04, 03:41 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
David Wood
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1

In message , Alfie
writes
I have a DSL-G604T ADSL Modem Wireless Router, and a DSL-2000AP+
Access point on a PC elsewhere in the house.

The router IP is 192.168.1.1 and the access point IP is 192.168.0.50.
The 2000AP+ assigns a dynamic DHCP IP to the attached PC of
192.168.1.100


It's probably the router allocating the IP address - the chances are
that the router is running a DHCP server and the access point isn't.


As these are two different subnets (192.168.0 and 192.168.1) how do I
get the wireless network up and running since all attempts have failed
so far? I suspect it's a 2000AP+ setting but I just can't find it.
Yet!!!


Assuming that you're using the typical Class C subnet mask of
255.255.255.0 for a 192.168.x.y network, the best thing is to change the
IP address of the access point to 192.168.1.y - where y is not 1 and not
a value in your DHCP pool.

That way the AP will be on the same subnet as the router and the DHCP
pool and everything will work smoothly.


You could, as another poster has suggested, switch everything to a
subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, but that is not a typical configuration,
and you may find some home network equipment that won't be happy with a
different subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 on a 192.168.x.y network.




David
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Old October 25th 04, 04:51 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Tiscali Tim
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
David Wood wrote:



You could, as another poster has suggested, switch everything to a
subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, but that is not a typical configuration,


That's probably what he's got at the moment. Do you mean 255.255.254.0 like
I suggested?

and you may find some home network equipment that won't be happy with
a different subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 on a 192.168.x.y network.


Why should it care, as long as a consistent (within itself) addressing
scheme is used?

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Old October 25th 04, 05:48 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
David Wood
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1

In message , Tiscali Tim
writes
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
David Wood wrote:
You could, as another poster has suggested, switch everything to a
subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, but that is not a typical configuration,


That's probably what he's got at the moment. Do you mean 255.255.254.0 like
I suggested?


I did, sorry - that was a typo. I was meaning moving from /24 to /23 -
255.255.254.0 as you say.


and you may find some home network equipment that won't be happy with
a different subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 on a 192.168.x.y network.


Why should it care, as long as a consistent (within itself) addressing
scheme is used?


It shouldn't - but some home user kit has things like netmasks
hard-wired in the configuration. It may be easier therefore to move
everything into a 255.255.255.0 subnet as this is common usage in the
192.168.0.0/16.


As something has to be changed, it seems easier to change the IP address
of the wireless access point than the netmask on all the equipment. I
don't believe the original poster needs a larger subnet than
255.255.255.0.



David
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Old October 25th 04, 08:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Wireless subnets 192.168.0 and 192.168.1


"Alfie" wrote in message
om...
I have a DSL-G604T ADSL Modem Wireless Router, and a DSL-2000AP+
Access point on a PC elsewhere in the house.

The router IP is 192.168.1.1 and the access point IP is 192.168.0.50.
The 2000AP+ assigns a dynamic DHCP IP to the attached PC of
192.168.1.100

As these are two different subnets (192.168.0 and 192.168.1) how do I
get the wireless network up and running since all attempts have failed
so far? I suspect it's a 2000AP+ setting but I just can't find it.
Yet!!!


The IP address on an access point is irrelevant it is only used to
manage the AP.
The networks are bridged so are independent of the IP address.

I think your problem is that you really want a wireless bridge to
connect a wired network to the wireless router.
Some APs can do this (by acting as a client on the network), some can't.

Is this what you are trying to do?

 




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