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wires only - what does it mean?



 
 
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Old January 28th 05, 08:49 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Tiscali Tim
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Default wires only - what does it mean?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Alex Boosbeck wrote:

hi. just a quick q - does wires only mean you basically get a
broadband connection, and have to supply your own modem (or buy
one) or does it mean you get a broadband connection, but with no
email / new server / webspace etc?

thanks, Alex.


In the early days of broadband - supplied by BT only - a BT engineer had to
come to your premises to install an ADSL faceplate plus
modem/router/whatever.

The term "wires-only" was invented when other ISPs got in on the act and
when it was no longer necessary to have a special faceplate (although it's
still a good idea - but you can fit one yourself) - because you could use
plug-in filters. Wires-only applies just to the BT part of deal, and means
that a BT engineer no longer visits your premises - and BT supply no
customer hardware. ADSL is enabled on your line at the exchange, then it's
down to you (and your ISP) for the rest. The alternative to wires-only is a
full BT installation - which is very rare nowadays.

What features you get from your ISP (email, spam filtering, webspace,
etc.) - and whether you or the ISP supplies the hardware - depends on what
service you buy from the ISP. "Wires-only" has no bearing on this.
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Old January 29th 05, 08:47 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default wires only - what does it mean?


"Tiscali Tim" wrote in message
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The term "wires-only" was invented when other ISPs got in on the act and
when it was no longer necessary to have a special faceplate (although it's
still a good idea - but you can fit one yourself) - because you could use
plug-in filters. Wires-only applies just to the BT part of deal, and means
that a BT engineer no longer visits your premises - and BT supply no
customer hardware. ADSL is enabled on your line at the exchange, then it's
down to you (and your ISP) for the rest. The alternative to wires-only is
a
full BT installation - which is very rare nowadays.


It's actually standard when converting from ISDN and ordering BT Broadband
at the same time.

Gareth.


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Old January 29th 05, 02:23 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Tiscali Tim
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Default wires only - what does it mean?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Gareth wrote:

"Tiscali Tim" wrote in message
...

The term "wires-only" was invented when other ISPs got in on the act
and when it was no longer necessary to have a special faceplate
(although it's still a good idea - but you can fit one yourself) -
because you could use plug-in filters. Wires-only applies just to
the BT part of deal, and means that a BT engineer no longer visits
your premises - and BT supply no customer hardware. ADSL is enabled
on your line at the exchange, then it's down to you (and your ISP)
for the rest. The alternative to wires-only is a
full BT installation - which is very rare nowadays.


It's actually standard when converting from ISDN and ordering BT
Broadband at the same time.

Gareth.


Yes, I was trying not to complicate the definition more than necessary. If
you convert from ISDN when going to a non-BT BB ISP, you *do* get a visit
from a BT engineer who converts the line back to PSTN. But this is still
effectively "wires only" because no BT ADSL equipment is installed at your
premises, and you're simply put back to a pre-ISDN state.
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Old January 30th 05, 02:20 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default wires only - what does it mean?

I'm having this done soon. So when they revert the ISDN, they
don't fit a new faceplate?

I'll need to order one, will I?

Jon.

Yes, I was trying not to complicate the definition more than necessary. If
you convert from ISDN when going to a non-BT BB ISP, you *do* get a visit
from a BT engineer who converts the line back to PSTN. But this is still
effectively "wires only" because no BT ADSL equipment is installed at your
premises, and you're simply put back to a pre-ISDN state.

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Old January 30th 05, 02:44 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Tiscali Tim
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Default wires only - what does it mean?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Jon Myatt wrote:

I'm having this done soon. So when they revert the ISDN, they
don't fit a new faceplate?

I'll need to order one, will I?

Jon.

By default, they'll leave you with standard NTE5 master socket with ordinary
faceplate. You *may* be able to get the BT engineer to fit and ADSL
faceplate instead if he happens to have a spare one.

You don't necessarily *have* to have an ADSL faceplate (although some
marginal lines apparently won't work without) - you can just use plug-in
filters.

A faceplate is better though IMHE. If BT don't provide one, you can get one
from Solwise or Clarity. If you need to run a digital extension from the
master socket to a point near your ADSL modem/router, it's best to use
Clarity's modified ADSL faceplate which enables the extension wiring to be
kroned into the back rather than plugged into the front. [See
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm and look for the one with some
red text in brackets.]
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Old January 31st 05, 02:46 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jon Myatt
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Default wires only - what does it mean?

By default, they'll leave you with standard NTE5 master socket with ordinary
faceplate. You *may* be able to get the BT engineer to fit and ADSL
faceplate instead if he happens to have a spare one.

You don't necessarily *have* to have an ADSL faceplate (although some
marginal lines apparently won't work without) - you can just use plug-in
filters.

A faceplate is better though IMHE. If BT don't provide one, you can get one
from Solwise or Clarity. If you need to run a digital extension from the
master socket to a point near your ADSL modem/router, it's best to use
Clarity's modified ADSL faceplate which enables the extension wiring to be
kroned into the back rather than plugged into the front. [See
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm and look for the one with some
red text in brackets.]


Thanks for the clarification Tim. I agree a faceplate will be a much
neater solution, there are phone sockets all over the place here and
plug-in filters would be an ugly and more expensive solution.
 




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