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Connecting More Then 1 pc to a router



 
 
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Old May 19th 05, 10:33 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Toonz
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Hi all , i'm running a router with just 1 eithernet & 1 usb port
(Creative Broadband Blaster DSL Router). i cant use both ports at once i.e
The usb Port and the eithernet port. What i'm trying to do is get the net
access to another 3 pc's and a PS2 also setting up a home network , the
router has a firewall built into it aswell as nat, would it be better
going for a 4 port switch with uplink port or a 4 port hub with uplink to
share the net connection aswell as the home network? if someone could give
me some advice how to set it up or what hardware i would need , i would be
gratfull
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Old May 19th 05, 10:48 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Switches are better than hubs, there's not much difference in price really.
Both will work but a switch will work better for file transfers around the
network though for Internet connection speeds it won't make much of a
difference.


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Old May 19th 05, 11:31 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 22:33:13 +0100, Toonz wrote:

Hi all , i'm running a router with just 1 eithernet & 1 usb port
(Creative Broadband Blaster DSL Router).


This is a one-port router.

i cant use both ports at once i.e
The usb Port and the eithernet port.


Thats how this unit works - it says so in the spec: "gives you a
choice to choose between using an Ethernet or USB interface".

You would need to get a 4-port router to replace the 1-port one, or a
switch to plug into the one port.

router has a firewall built into it aswell as nat, would it be better
going for a 4 port switch with uplink port or a 4 port hub with uplink


Get a switch. Performance is better and the cost is much the same.
Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.


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Old May 20th 05, 08:12 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Mark McIntyre wrote in
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Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.


There is really little point except from saving space. One could even
argue that separate devices are better due to not having a single point
of failure.
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Old May 20th 05, 08:29 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"cw" wrote in message
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Mark McIntyre wrote in
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Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.


There is really little point except from saving space. One could even
argue that separate devices are better due to not having a single point
of failure.


With 2 devices you have double the chance of something failing.


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Old May 20th 05, 08:32 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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In response to what Depresion posted in news:vlgje.13579
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"cw" wrote in message
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Mark McIntyre wrote in
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Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.


There is really little point except from saving space. One could even
argue that separate devices are better due to not having a single point
of failure.


With 2 devices you have double the chance of something failing.


Would you rather cross the Atlantic in a four-engined or single-engined
plane?

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Old May 20th 05, 09:51 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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cw wrote:
Mark McIntyre wrote in
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Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.


There is really little point except from saving space. One could even
argue that separate devices are better due to not having a single point
of failure.


Eh?

It's worse because you have *two* places where a failure will bring
the system down (well, your connectivity anyway). If either the
switch or the router fails your internet connection is stuffed. Thus
you have two 'single points of failure' and are worse off from the
reliability point of view.

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Old May 20th 05, 09:53 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Joe Soap wrote:
In response to what Depresion posted in news:vlgje.13579
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"cw" wrote in message
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Mark McIntyre wrote in
:

Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.

There is really little point except from saving space. One could even
argue that separate devices are better due to not having a single point
of failure.


With 2 devices you have double the chance of something failing.


Would you rather cross the Atlantic in a four-engined or single-engined
plane?

If all four engines were required to keep the plane aloft then I'd
prefer the single engined plane. This is the true analogy as both the
router and the switch are required to work to have an internet
connection. The system is no use if *either* of them fails.

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Old May 20th 05, 10:30 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Tim Clark
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In article ,
Joe Soap writes:
In response to what Depresion posted in news:vlgje.13579
:

"cw" wrote in message
...
Mark McIntyre wrote in
:

Better yet, upgrade to a multiport router.

There is really little point except from saving space. One could even
argue that separate devices are better due to not having a single point
of failure.


With 2 devices you have double the chance of something failing.


Would you rather cross the Atlantic in a four-engined or single-engined
plane?


Well that would depend. Assume all engines have equal reliability. Were
the loss of one engine fatal for the four-engined plane, then your
chances are four times better in the single-engined. However, if the
loss of one engine is survivable for the four-engined (as is likely to
be the case), then your chances are better in the four-engined.

Whether more is better depends whether the configuration is single point
of failure, or multiple redundancy. The router/switch configuration
described is a single point of failure one - so a single device is
better.

Although reliability of devices is pretty high, the more complex a
situation is and the more devices which have to be configured the more
scope there is for human error - and the more work there is trying to
find where the problem lies. Money permitting, that's the main thing
which would make me go for the single device.

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