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Enough is Enough BULLDOG!!



 
 
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Old August 3rd 05, 11:36 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
James
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"guv" wrote in message
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How can I force a MAC code?


Force? You cant.

How can I force THEM to refund what they owe?


tell your c/c company and advise of payment and non service and the c/c will
pay you back and debit bulldog unless they can prove you are wrong.



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Old August 4th 05, 12:16 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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guv wrote:
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 23:36:23 +0100, "James"
wrote:



How can I force a MAC code?


Force? You cant.



Are you saying that that can stop you from being able to migrate
without taking up as a new activation? That sounds illegal to me?




Unfortunately it is correct. Giving MACs is entirely optional.
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Old August 4th 05, 04:10 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:47:24 +0100, guv wrote:

Are you saying that that can stop you from being able to migrate
without taking up as a new activation? That sounds illegal to me?


There are two issues involved. If they're providing a product based on
a BT Wholesale ADSL service (where all ISPs share common BT provided
DSLAMs etc at the exchange) then they have the option to give you a
MAC code to allow you to move to another provider without having to
pay the 50 activation fee again since someone has already paid this
to BT. It's often in the ISPs interest to try and help avoid paying
this charge where possible as it's just profit for BT, but they have
no obligation to do so and may don't.

Bulldogs main product (they provide both I believe) is an LLU service
where they install their own equipment in BTs exchanges. Since they
connect you to their own physical equipment, any other provider would
still have to reconnect you to their service or back to a BT Wholesale
product and pay the connection costs of doing so. Therefor there can't
be a migration scheme as such because you would be switching between
different physical equipment.

You are of course still free to change providers as you like, you just
have to cancel one and then pay the connection fee for another, just
as if you switched from (for example) cable to BT.

Rgds
Jonathan

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Old August 5th 05, 12:52 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 04 Aug 2005 17:01, guv wrote:

You are of course still free to change providers as you like, you just
have to cancel one and then pay the connection fee for another, just
as if you switched from (for example) cable to BT.


If that is the case - then this is yet another reason to avoid joining
Bulldog, since other ISPs do provide a MAC.


Most other ISPs provide a MAC, where it is appropriate, but from the other
poster's line of thinking on the basis of LLU, it _would_not_be_an_option_
whichever ISP it was (ie not down to Bulldog, but applies equally to using
UK Online, because the situation doesn't lend itself to a MAC being usable,
not a weakness /awkwardness of the ISP - compared with Tiscali, which seems
unwilling to provide a MAC despite it being desirable, and not impossible!)

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