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Old September 15th 05, 02:25 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Hi,

I'm looking for resources that explain, in detail, the whole process of
what happens when someone registers a domain name.

I'm specifically interested in where and how ISPs come into it. For
example, when I register a domain name with an ISP, where does my money
go? What part does the ISP play in terms of registrar, ICANN/IANA,
etc.

I hope I have made myself clear.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

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Old September 15th 05, 02:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Hi,

I'm looking for resources that explain, in detail, the whole process of
what happens when someone registers a domain name.

I'm specifically interested in where and how ISPs come into it. For
example, when I register a domain name with an ISP, where does my money
go? What part does the ISP play in terms of registrar, ICANN/IANA,
etc.

I hope I have made myself clear.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



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Old September 15th 05, 03:44 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Homework?

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Hi,

I'm looking for resources that explain, in detail, the whole process of
what happens when someone registers a domain name.

I'm specifically interested in where and how ISPs come into it. For
example, when I register a domain name with an ISP, where does my money
go? What part does the ISP play in terms of registrar, ICANN/IANA,
etc.

I hope I have made myself clear.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



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Old September 15th 05, 05:11 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 15 Sep 2005 06:25:27 -0700, "
wrote:

I'm looking for resources that explain, in detail, the whole process of
what happens when someone registers a domain name.


I'm specifically interested in where and how ISPs come into it. For
example, when I register a domain name with an ISP, where does my money
go? What part does the ISP play in terms of registrar, ICANN/IANA,
etc.


a) You might not need to use an ISP (in the 'supply a connection to the
internet' service aspect), there are firms which do the registration
(and offer related services, such as website hosting, and so on)

b) There's no simple answer, it will depend on the type of TLD (.com,
.net, .org, .info, .biz, .*.uk) that determines which firm gets a
part of the fee you pay. For example, any .*.uk domain registration
there will be a portion reaching Nominet (www.nic.uk). For a .info,
part may reach Afilias (www.nic.info)

Whoever takes your money may be an agent for some other firm, and they
have a business relationship with the group (whether one business or a
consortium) which manages the authoritative database for that TLD.

As for relationships with ICANN/IANA, you know the names, go use some
search engines to see the working relationships between the groups
that manage the different TLDs and these bodies.


As an example, find some website handling domain registrations - say
www.hostway.com You register a .com domain and pay them some fee.
They are an agent of www.aaaq.com so the domain shows the registrar
as aaaq.com, and they pass on the fee to the TLD controller of .com
(Network Solutions/Verisign, I think). You may never have contact
with Verisign, or aaaq.com, directly, just the website (and indirectly,
into aaaq.com), to control DNS etc for the domain. It may not be clear
how much of the fee goes to AAAQ, and how much to Verisign, and how much
to Hostway. Some rates are openly compared... TUCOWS resellers pay $10
for a .com etc. I can buy a .info for as little as $1.50 so there's a
lot of scope for discounts depending on whether you are a reseller of
a registrar (and I'm just an end user, but the .info domains were going
for FREE for some months last year, and very cheaply at the moment, as
a promotional thing, so .info is a special case anyway right now :-)

If you use registerfly.com or dotster.com or godaddy.com they may be
registrars for some domains, or agents of registrars, depending on
the domain. Registering a domain using Dotster, for example may
actually use the services of eNom.com. Using Ev1servers.net will
mean you are dealing with an agent of Tucows.com, and there are a
number of parallels for .*.uk domains. So you have a lot of work
to find out precisely what A pays to B pays to C when you might be
paying A a low (or high!) fee for the domain. Peter M.

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Old September 16th 05, 10:53 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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ccTLD

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Old September 16th 05, 10:53 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Wish it was.

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Old September 16th 05, 10:58 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Excellent. Thanks. This is the sort of thing I was looking for.

I really wanted to find out the process that takes place when a country
(Tuvalu for example) decided to have the .tv. Who actually owns the
..tv? Is it the country/government itself, who then nominate a ccTLD
manager/sponsor/person looking after it? What did they have to do to
basically get on the internet and make the .tv available to everyone
and how the ownership was agreed?

Many thanks

Mike

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Old September 16th 05, 12:54 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 16 Sep 2005 02:58:38 -0700, "
wrote:

I really wanted to find out the process that takes place when a country
(Tuvalu for example) decided to have the .tv. Who actually owns the
.tv? Is it the country/government itself, who then nominate a ccTLD
manager/sponsor/person looking after it? What did they have to do to
basically get on the internet and make the .tv available to everyone
and how the ownership was agreed?


You'll find that for a number of such TLDs, such as .fm, .tv there will
have been negotiations between their government and some IT Consultancy
(I think there's one in San Francisco which has specialised in handling
them), so the Government, and therefore their people, should benefit on
the back of "sales" (registrations) while the consultancy clearly has a
profit to make, and pricing might be an area where the consultancy will
have suggested a figure to go back to the nation, and a figure which it
will charge resellers. So .tv is often around $50/year while most will
be much lower. I've not looked at .fm

There are other money-makers with no TLD, just a handy domain, and they
are coining (nearly wrote conning) in money from people who are rather
unclued up, but will pay silly money for "something.uk.com" etc, etc.

Obviously there will be happy resellers willing to take $20 for each
sale, and who are loath to make any negative comments about the worth
of such a domain, let alone the limited WHOIS and other safeguards for
such domains.

Probably you should be hunting for info from www.internic.com and
www.icannwatch.org www.wgig.org etc The two letter codes are from
ISO so the letters are not just chosen by countries (and there used to
be some odd entries like www.hmg.gb : HM Government - I remember seeing
a web cache logged in the web stats of some firm that had me develop a
reasonably large website with import/export data).

Also see IANA:
http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld.htm
http://www.iana.org/reports/cctld-reports.htm

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Old September 16th 05, 02:32 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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silly money for "something.uk.com" etc, etc.


I remember trying to register uk.org way back whenever, and being rejected
by the registrar "because there was already a .uk domain and that's what
we should use". Circa early-mid nineties IIRC - when a year's domain
registration in .uk was GBP 200.

Chris
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Old September 17th 05, 07:43 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Excellent. Many thanks for this. Really useful.

 




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