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Old September 20th 05, 07:05 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
T i m
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Hi All,

I was talking to someone today (having trouble connecting a Belkin
router etc) who sugggested they were subscribed to AOL but over NTL
cable? At first I thought they were confused ('users' rolls eyes)
but after a quick Google it seems they could be right (doh)?

So it would seem AOL require PPPoE and therefore an account / password
for the router (as with ADSL connections) but do you also need to
'tweek' the MTU/MRU (and do you typically get that option on cable
routers)?

Also .. it would also appear that the AOL over NTL users aren't capped
whereas straight NTL users (especially the 1M ones) are?

(I'm sticking with 300kbps and 30G / month for now) ;-)

All the best ..

T i m




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Old September 21st 05, 11:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
kim
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"T i m" wrote in message
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Hi All,

I was talking to someone today (having trouble connecting a Belkin
router etc) who sugggested they were subscribed to AOL but over NTL
cable? At first I thought they were confused ('users' rolls eyes)
but after a quick Google it seems they could be right (doh)?

So it would seem AOL require PPPoE


It does now. Have just reinstalled my modem for about the fourteenth time
since this became a requirement.

and therefore an account / password
for the router (as with ADSL connections) but do you also need to
'tweek' the MTU/MRU (and do you typically get that option on cable
routers)?


Can't help you there as I use a modem.

Also .. it would also appear that the AOL over NTL users aren't capped
whereas straight NTL users (especially the 1M ones) are?


That's correct. AOL has a special arrangemnt with NTL in the same way it
does with BT. Of course you're paying twice over, once for the AOL contract
and again for the NTL (or BT) line.

Kim


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Old September 22nd 05, 07:05 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
George
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That's correct. AOL has a special arrangemnt with NTL in the same way
it
does with BT. Of course you're paying twice over, once for the AOL
contract
and again for the NTL (or BT) line.


This is not true. It is possible to have an AOL connection over NTL
without taking a phone line or anything else from NTL. It's a set rate
of 24.99 regardless of whether you have any other services with NTL.

George


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Old September 22nd 05, 02:32 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
kim
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"George" wrote in message
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That's correct. AOL has a special arrangemnt with NTL in the same way it
does with BT. Of course you're paying twice over, once for the AOL
contract
and again for the NTL (or BT) line.


This is not true. It is possible to have an AOL connection over NTL
without taking a phone line or anything else from NTL. It's a set rate of
24.99 regardless of whether you have any other services with NTL.


AOL's charge does not include the cost of line rental from BT or NTL.If you
haven't already got one or the other, you can't connect to AOL.

(kim)


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Old September 22nd 05, 07:35 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:32:28 +0100, "kim" wrote:

"George" wrote in message
...
That's correct. AOL has a special arrangemnt with NTL in the same way
it
does with BT. Of course you're paying twice over, once for the AOL
contract
and again for the NTL (or BT) line.

This is not true. It is possible to have an AOL connection over NTL
without taking a phone line or anything else from NTL. It's a set rate
of
24.99 regardless of whether you have any other services with NTL.


AOL's charge does not include the cost of line rental from BT or NTL.If
you
haven't already got one or the other, you can't connect to AOL.



You don't need a phone line to use NTL broadband.


No but you need a NTL cable for which you have to pay. It's not included in
the AOL subscription.

(kim)


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Old September 22nd 05, 08:11 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Steven Sumpter
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:35:35 +0100, kim wrote:
No but you need a NTL cable for which you have to pay. It's not included in
the AOL subscription.


You can have NTL broadband for 25/month without taking NTL TV or NTL
phone. Are you telling me that this is not the case with the AOL version?

Steve.

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Old September 22nd 05, 09:44 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Phil Thompson
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:35:35 +0100, "kim" wrote:

No but you need a NTL cable for which you have to pay. It's not included in
the AOL subscription.


"Provided over an ntl cable modem, AOL Broadband Gold is up to 20
times as fast as a standard dial-up connection, and up to twice as
fast as AOL Broadband Silver.
Modem cost: FREE
Monthly charges: 24.99
Select AOL Broadband Gold - ntl cable
Installation fee: No cost"

no mention of pre-existing NTL, only free install.

"If you have opted for the AOL Broadband Cable product, then yes, an
ntl engineer will need to visit your home to install the cable modem.
You will be able to choose the time and date that the ntl engineer
visits, so that it is as convenient for you as possible."

etc.
are you sure ??

Phil
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Old September 23rd 05, 12:21 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
kim
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"Steven Sumpter" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:35:35 +0100, kim wrote:
No but you need a NTL cable for which you have to pay. It's not included
in
the AOL subscription.


You can have NTL broadband for 25/month without taking NTL TV or NTL
phone. Are you telling me that this is not the case with the AOL version?


AOL Broadband is only for those with an existing BT or NTL connection. AOL
does not provide lines of its own.

(kim)


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Old September 23rd 05, 12:26 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
kim
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"Phil Thompson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:35:35 +0100, "kim" wrote:

No but you need a NTL cable for which you have to pay. It's not included
in
the AOL subscription.


"Provided over an ntl cable modem, AOL Broadband Gold is up to 20
times as fast as a standard dial-up connection, and up to twice as
fast as AOL Broadband Silver.
Modem cost: FREE
Monthly charges: 24.99
Select AOL Broadband Gold - ntl cable
Installation fee: No cost"

no mention of pre-existing NTL, only free install.


There is no charge for installing AOL. You still have to pay to install NTL
and any monthly fee which NTL charges. If not I would have it already as an
NTL cable runs past my back gate.

(kim)


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Old September 23rd 05, 01:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
kim
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wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:21:44 +0100, "kim" wrote:

"Steven Sumpter" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:35:35 +0100, kim wrote:
No but you need a NTL cable for which you have to pay. It's not
included
in
the AOL subscription.

You can have NTL broadband for 25/month without taking NTL TV or NTL
phone. Are you telling me that this is not the case with the AOL
version?


AOL Broadband is only for those with an existing BT or NTL connection. AOL
does not provide lines of its own.



But you've no need to have NTL TV or phone to have broadband and if
you have AOL broadband NTL do not charge you anything for the cable
modem.


You are still paying for the NTL cable on top of the 24.99 you are paying
for AOL.

(kim)


 




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