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BT's new broadband unit



 
 
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Old September 23rd 05, 12:59 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
David Bradley
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Have a look at:
http://networks.silicon.com/broadban...9152621,00.htm
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Old September 23rd 05, 03:41 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Stirling
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Default BT's new broadband unit

David Bradley wrote:
Have a look at:
http://networks.silicon.com/broadban...9152621,00.htm


So.
All the customer-facing engineers that run round in vans drinking tea
and going down muddy holes get spun off into 'Openreach'.
Does this include operation of the exchange network?
Where does it stop?
Does Bulldog (for ex) now call OR to setup a new line, which then gets
installed in the exchange by a BT engineer, and wired over to the Bulldog
LLU kit?

Or does OR do all the customer wiring in the exchanges and network, with
BT being left only operating the exchanges and high speed data network?
Or is it OR to the cabinet, and BT back from there?


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Old September 23rd 05, 05:24 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Kraftee
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Ian Stirling wrote:
David Bradley wrote:
Have a look at:
http://networks.silicon.com/broadban...9152621,00.htm


So.
All the customer-facing engineers that run round in vans drinking tea
and going down muddy holes get spun off into 'Openreach'.
Does this include operation of the exchange network?
Where does it stop?
Does Bulldog (for ex) now call OR to setup a new line, which then gets
installed in the exchange by a BT engineer, and wired over to the
Bulldog LLU kit?

Or does OR do all the customer wiring in the exchanges and network,
with BT being left only operating the exchanges and high speed data
network? Or is it OR to the cabinet, and BT back from there?


Who knows.....What will happen is the same people will do the same jobs
(the same way) & just drive around wearing different 'image wear' &
having a different livery on their vehicle..


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Old September 23rd 05, 05:28 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Kraftee
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Kraftee wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
David Bradley wrote:
Have a look at:
http://networks.silicon.com/broadban...9152621,00.htm


So.
All the customer-facing engineers that run round in vans drinking tea
and going down muddy holes get spun off into 'Openreach'.
Does this include operation of the exchange network?
Where does it stop?
Does Bulldog (for ex) now call OR to setup a new line, which then
gets installed in the exchange by a BT engineer, and wired over to
the Bulldog LLU kit?

Or does OR do all the customer wiring in the exchanges and network,
with BT being left only operating the exchanges and high speed data
network? Or is it OR to the cabinet, and BT back from there?


Who knows.....What will happen is the same people will do the same
jobs (the same way) & just drive around wearing different 'image
wear' & having a different livery on their vehicle..


Oh I forgot, calling it a broadband unit is a misnomer as it will cover
all services, PSTN, ISDN, Private Wires etc, as well as broadband, in
fact most of the engineers out in the field won't be dealing with
Broadband problems at all (in fact it will be just the same as it is
now)...


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Old September 23rd 05, 05:55 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
[email protected]
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Default BT's new broadband unit

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:24:21 +0100, "Kraftee"
please we're bristish.com wrote:

Who knows.....What will happen is the same people will do the same jobs
(the same way) & just drive around wearing different 'image wear' &
having a different livery on their vehicle..


No doubt BT will blow a few million changing the image.

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Old September 23rd 05, 10:11 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Stirling
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Kraftee please we're bristish.com wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
David Bradley wrote:
Have a look at:
http://networks.silicon.com/broadban...9152621,00.htm


So.
All the customer-facing engineers that run round in vans drinking tea
and going down muddy holes get spun off into 'Openreach'.
Does this include operation of the exchange network?
Where does it stop?

snip
Who knows.....What will happen is the same people will do the same jobs
(the same way) & just drive around wearing different 'image wear' &
having a different livery on their vehicle..


200M / 25000 = 5000 per.

Going to be some mighty fine paint jobs...

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Old September 24th 05, 06:36 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Kraftee
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Ian Stirling wrote:
Kraftee please we're bristish.com
wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
David Bradley wrote:
Have a look at:
http://networks.silicon.com/broadban...9152621,00.htm

So.
All the customer-facing engineers that run round in vans drinking
tea and going down muddy holes get spun off into 'Openreach'.
Does this include operation of the exchange network?
Where does it stop?

snip
Who knows.....What will happen is the same people will do the same
jobs (the same way) & just drive around wearing different 'image
wear' & having a different livery on their vehicle..


200M / 25000 = 5000 per.

Going to be some mighty fine paint jobs...


At least it will get rid of the smear marks down the side of my van
where a kamikazi OAP drove at me at high speed, on a small lane, forcing
me into the hedge. Well let's face it I didn't have any business to be
in his way ;-)


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Old October 5th 05, 01:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ray Bellis
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Oh I forgot, calling it a broadband unit is a misnomer as
it will cover all services, PSTN, ISDN, Private Wires
etc, as well as broadband, in fact most of the engineers
out in the field won't be dealing with Broadband problems
at all (in fact it will be just the same as it is now)...


There's more (and less) to it than that.

The new Access Services division (now known as Openreach) is primarily
only running the copper and fibre in the ground.

However most existing BT *services* (e.g. ADSL, analogue or ISDN
telephony services, full leased lines etc) run using those wires will
still be run by BT Wholesale.

Ray

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Old October 5th 05, 06:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Kraftee
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Default BT's new broadband unit

Ray Bellis wrote:
Oh I forgot, calling it a broadband unit is a misnomer as
it will cover all services, PSTN, ISDN, Private Wires
etc, as well as broadband, in fact most of the engineers
out in the field won't be dealing with Broadband problems
at all (in fact it will be just the same as it is now)...


There's more (and less) to it than that.

The new Access Services division (now known as Openreach) is primarily
only running the copper and fibre in the ground.

However most existing BT *services* (e.g. ADSL, analogue or ISDN
telephony services, full leased lines etc) run using those wires will
still be run by BT Wholesale.


But will be maintained & serviced by OpenReach. Anything using the
'Local Loop' will be maintained & serviced by OpenReach, in fact nothing
will change except for the labelling.


 




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