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Old January 21st 06, 09:34 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Bobby Bob
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Can anyone recommend a decent supplier i am a heavy user so want unlimited
downloads, no fair usage policy crap, i am with tiscali and they are
throttling my account all the time even though its supposedly unlimited and
was started before the fair usage policy was thought of, bloody disgrace.
Looking for a good reliable service with no limits ever, cant get cable in
my area, anyone???

Thanks
Chris


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Old January 21st 06, 10:41 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
mark eldon
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start here
www.adslguide.org.uk


"Bobby Bob" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a decent supplier i am a heavy user so want

unlimited
downloads, no fair usage policy crap, i am with tiscali and they are
throttling my account all the time even though its supposedly unlimited
and was started before the fair usage policy was thought of, bloody
disgrace. Looking for a good reliable service with no limits ever, cant
get cable in my area, anyone???

Thanks
Chris



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Old January 21st 06, 10:51 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Phil Thompson
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:34:00 -0000, "Bobby Bob"
wrote:

Looking for a good reliable service with no limits ever,


Nildram or Demon 1:1 contention broadband ?

Otherwise AOL.

Phil
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http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist...&Board=tiscali

AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.
  #4  
Old January 21st 06, 10:55 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Adrian
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Bobby Bob wrote:
Can anyone recommend a decent supplier i am a heavy user so want
unlimited downloads, no fair usage policy crap, i am with tiscali and
they are throttling my account all the time even though its
supposedly unlimited and was started before the fair usage policy was
thought of, bloody disgrace. Looking for a good reliable service with
no limits ever, cant get cable in my area, anyone???

Thanks
Chris


Zen


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Old January 21st 06, 11:42 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Dave Stanton
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:34:00 +0000, Bobby Bob wrote:

Can anyone recommend a decent supplier i am a heavy user so want unlimited
downloads, no fair usage policy crap, i am with tiscali and they are
throttling my account all the time even though its supposedly unlimited and
was started before the fair usage policy was thought of, bloody disgrace.
Looking for a good reliable service with no limits ever, cant get cable in
my area, anyone???

Thanks
Chris


Get an ADSL router and go with AOL.

Dave

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Old January 25th 06, 12:11 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Stirling
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Bobby Bob wrote:
Can anyone recommend a decent supplier i am a heavy user so want unlimited
downloads, no fair usage policy crap, i am with tiscali and they are
throttling my account all the time even though its supposedly unlimited and
was started before the fair usage policy was thought of, bloody disgrace.
Looking for a good reliable service with no limits ever, cant get cable in
my area, anyone???


The basic problem is BT changed the charging scheme, introducing new
ones that make bandwidth from the user to the ISP MUCH more expensive.


Either the ISP has to charge all customers several pounds more than the
competition (and much higher for 512K), go LLU only (and limit to a few
exchanges) or bear the loss of customers who may be using several
hundred GB of traffic a month.

A 1Mb user maxing out their link could easily cost the ISP well over a
couple of hundred pounds a month (as a proportion of the total pipe
cost).
And with the ISPs recieving maybe 7 pounds more than the cost they pay BT
per user, and having to pay salaries, ... out of that 7 pounds, unless
they are willing to subsidise from other buisnesses, high users are kind
of a problem.
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Old January 25th 06, 06:43 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Phil Thompson
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On 25 Jan 2006 00:11:21 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:

The basic problem is BT changed the charging scheme, introducing new
ones that make bandwidth from the user to the ISP MUCH more expensive.


the other side of the same coin is that they drastically cut the price
of end user links especially the higher speeds, so instead of
38/month for a 2M end user connection its about 8.

Nobody was forced to change to capacity based charging, but without it
you wouldn't have 2M ADSL for less than 50/month.

Phil
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http://www.notspot.info/ - if you can't get the Broadband you want.
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Old January 25th 06, 11:01 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Stirling
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Phil Thompson wrote:
On 25 Jan 2006 00:11:21 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:

The basic problem is BT changed the charging scheme, introducing new
ones that make bandwidth from the user to the ISP MUCH more expensive.


the other side of the same coin is that they drastically cut the price
of end user links especially the higher speeds, so instead of
?38/month for a 2M end user connection its about ?8.

Nobody was forced to change to capacity based charging, but without it
you wouldn't have 2M ADSL for less than ?50/month.


Effectively they were.

The ISP cannot mix both charging schemes, it has to pick one or the
other.

The cynical might suggest that BT looked at a graph of bandwidth usage
per unit time, and decided to take a short term loss, in order to rake
in more and more cash as bandwidth usage goes up.
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Old January 25th 06, 07:33 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Phil Thompson
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On 25 Jan 2006 11:01:32 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:

Effectively they were.
The ISP cannot mix both charging schemes, it has to pick one or the
other.


but that still doesn't force them to change, its their choice.

The reality is that Standard charging was uncompetitive for the higher
speed end user services, so most ISPs moved over fairly quickly.

Phil
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http://www.notspot.info/ - if you can't get the Broadband you want.
  #10  
Old January 26th 06, 10:57 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Stirling
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Phil Thompson wrote:
On 25 Jan 2006 11:01:32 GMT, Ian Stirling
wrote:

Effectively they were.
The ISP cannot mix both charging schemes, it has to pick one or the
other.


but that still doesn't force them to change, its their choice.


True, but if you were in the ISP buisness, with say 500K customers, and
face being unable to competitively offer speeds 512K, you're kind of
stuffed if you diddn't.


The only possible way round this would be to setup a seperate (from the
point of view of BT, I don't know how seperate it'd have to be in
reality) buisness operation to offer uncapped services.

The reality is that Standard charging was uncompetitive for the higher
speed end user services, so most ISPs moved over fairly quickly.

Phil

 




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