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![]() Hi I'm going to replace my Linksys WAG54G router, as I want to use VOIP via normal BT phones using a router and also get better reporting of stuff like line noise etc. VOIP is the main consideration however. I've narrowed it down to 2 possibilities, either the DrayTek Vigor 2800VG, or the ZyXEL Prestige 2602HW. Both give me VOIP, wireless, have firewall and built in modem. The Vigor has the advantage of a printer port, which would be useful for my inkjet printer (I've got a laser too, but it is networkable) as it could then be used via mine and my wife's laptops without the need to turn on my main machine. The Vigor also supports 108 mbps. The ZyXEL is cheaper though at around £132 inc VAT, while the Draytek is nearly £174 inc VAT at Broadbandbuyer. The Vigor looks to be better, but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra money. I'd very much appreciate opinions from anyone whose has experience of these routers, or may know more about then than I do. TIA -- Andrew Sayers |
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![]() Andrew Sayers wrote: Hi I'm going to replace my Linksys WAG54G router, as I want to use VOIP via normal BT phones using a router and also get better reporting of stuff like line noise etc. VOIP is the main consideration however. I've narrowed it down to 2 possibilities, either the DrayTek Vigor 2800VG, or the ZyXEL Prestige 2602HW. Both give me VOIP, wireless, have firewall and built in modem. The Vigor has the advantage of a printer port, which would be useful for my inkjet printer (I've got a laser too, but it is networkable) as it could then be used via mine and my wife's laptops without the need to turn on my main machine. The Vigor also supports 108 mbps. The ZyXEL is cheaper though at around £132 inc VAT, while the Draytek is nearly £174 inc VAT at Broadbandbuyer. The Vigor looks to be better, but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra money. I'd very much appreciate opinions from anyone whose has experience of these routers, or may know more about then than I do. I have a recently bought 2602HW, it'll cost you much less than £132 if you buy from www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk, £86.95. The Media Bandwidth Management isn't implemented in the current version of the firmware but will be in the next release. There have been quite a few reports here of problems with the VOIP on the 2800VG, take a look back using Google Groups. The VOIP worked very easily for me (a VOIP newbie) on the 2602, we're not using it very heavily at the moment though. -- Chris Green |
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![]() I have got 2600VGi and Zyxel 2602HWL. The Draytek is excellent in every way, but the recently update VoIP firmware is still not fully functional. You can't control both lines from one phone and few other functions. AFAIK nobody has yet managed to make it work with sipdicount :-( The 2800 series is ADSL2+ compatible but AFAIK the VoIP part is unchanged. The Zyxel hasn't got any of the above problems, the only minus point is just 10 speed dial No's ( Draytek has 60). Had it since May, on good 2Mb/s line, had to re boot twice. One time both VoIP wouldn't register for few days, but it did sort itself out eventually. I rate is as very good, specially if you get it at the right price: At the moment the HW version is very cheap from broadbandbuyer 'cos they have got the price wrong ! Compare it to the HWL which only adds the PSTN pass-trough facility. Finally you should have look at Fritz! box (available from sipgate.co.uk) which has got the best VoIP features. Haven't heard any complaints about it. Regards, Martin |
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![]() On 2006-01-27, Martin² wrote: Finally you should have look at Fritz! box (available from sipgate.co.uk) which has got the best VoIP features. Haven't heard any complaints about it. But make sure you either want the existing version or wait for the new 7050 which adds an extra IP port and an ISDN port. The ISDN lets you use ISDN phones internally even with an external analogue or VOIP line, so you can add an ISDN cordless phone and have two lines active simultaneously. The UK versions appear to be one model behind the German ones, which is unfortunate as the German one also has a printer/USB disk port. -- Andy Repton |
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![]() "Martin²" wrote: I have got 2600VGi and Zyxel 2602HWL. The Draytek is excellent in every way, but the recently update VoIP firmware is still not fully functional. You can't control both lines from one phone and few other functions. AFAIK nobody has yet managed to make it work with sipdicount :-( The 2800 series is ADSL2+ compatible but AFAIK the VoIP part is unchanged. The Zyxel hasn't got any of the above problems, the only minus point is just 10 speed dial No's ( Draytek has 60). Had it since May, on good 2Mb/s line, had to re boot twice. One time both VoIP wouldn't register for few days, but it did sort itself out eventually. I rate is as very good, specially if you get it at the right price: At the moment the HW version is very cheap from broadbandbuyer 'cos they have got the price wrong ! Compare it to the HWL which only adds the PSTN pass-trough facility. Finally you should have look at Fritz! box (available from sipgate.co.uk) which has got the best VoIP features. Haven't heard any complaints about it. Thanks for the info guys. It looks like I'll go for the ZyXEL at the braodbandbuyers price. As a matter of interest who are you using for your VOIP service? I'm using Skype at the moment but I don't know whether that service works over a VOIP router with a standard phone so I may have to switch to one of the other providers such as Vonage. -- Andrew Sayers |
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![]() Andrew Sayers wrote: As a matter of interest who are you using for your VOIP service? I'm using Skype at the moment but I don't know whether that service works over a VOIP router with a standard phone so I may have to switch to one of the other providers such as Vonage. Skype is proprietary, so you won't be able to plug a phone into your ZyXel and expect it to work with Skype. Vonage also fiddle with their protocols, so you have to pay for a 'softphone' line to get it to work with a standard SIP client like your ZyXel. Using Vonage with your Zyxel will cost sixteen quid for 500 minutes a month. Which [as you've probably guessed by now] is ****. Compare with [these are assumptions based on just calling geo numbers]: 500 minutes/mo 16 quid/mo Sipgate @1.2p/min £6 1300 minutes voip.co.uk @1p/min £5 1600 minutes Note that both these services are PAYG, ie there are no 'rental' fees due every month, and both offer incoming geo numbers in pretty much all area codes. Of course if you sign up for Vonage and use their supplied kit, it'll be a tenner a month all in, but to be honest, I'd have to be pretty sure I was using 1000 minutes a month [more than half an hour every single day] of outbound calls in order to justify it. Also there may be a minimum contract period with Vonage - I can't tell without actually signing up. -- http://ale.cx/ (AIM:troffasky) ) 16:47:54 up 2 days, 21:05, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.09, 0.09 This is my BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMSTICK |
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