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Backlash against free internet calls



 
 
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Old October 22nd 05, 03:54 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Dave Gill
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

From this week's New scientist:

"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people to the
internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use voice over
internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku

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Old October 22nd 05, 04:19 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
peter
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Dave Gill wrote:
From this week's New scientist:

"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people to the
internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use voice over
internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku

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Old October 22nd 05, 05:22 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Brian A
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:34:38 +0100, wrote:

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:54:49 +0100,
(Dave Gill) wrote:

From this week's New scientist:

"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people to the
internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use voice over
internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku

BTYahoo would have a job stopping calls as they promote their own
Yahoo communicator;-)
pete

I would hope that the government would legislate against ISPs etc., if
this occurs here, as is stifles compeitition.
Fortunately it looks like BT have accepted that calls will go to voip
as it does offer its own voip service.
I think the main problem here might be where ISPs play dirty tricks
to get people to use their own brand of voip. It is that that may
require legislation.
If Ofcom do nothing to stop it then will will have to be letters,
pronto, to the MPs to sort it out. Knowing Parliament's incapacity to
comprehend technical matters that could be a lengthy procedure.


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Old October 22nd 05, 05:23 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
sean
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:54:49 +0100,
(Dave Gill) wrote:

From this week's New scientist:


"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people to the
internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use voice over
internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku


BTYahoo would have a job stopping calls as they promote their own
Yahoo communicator;-)
pete

Freedom 2 Surf have also just launched there own VoIP service..........
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Old October 22nd 05, 07:14 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

Thus spaketh Dave Gill:
From this week's New scientist:

"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people to
the internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use voice
over internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku



http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct05/1846


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Old October 22nd 05, 08:06 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Dave Gill
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

Brian A wrote:

I would hope that the government would legislate against ISPs etc., if
this occurs here, as is stifles compeitition.
Fortunately it looks like BT have accepted that calls will go to voip
as it does offer its own voip service.
I think the main problem here might be where ISPs play dirty tricks
to get people to use their own brand of voip. It is that that may
require legislation.
If Ofcom do nothing to stop it then will will have to be letters,
pronto, to the MPs to sort it out. Knowing Parliament's incapacity to
comprehend technical matters that could be a lengthy procedure.


Well so far Ofcom's attitude seems to be that VoIP is healthy
competition for the fixed line providers, so maybe there would be a
reasonably quick response if some of the telcos started playing tricks.

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Old October 22nd 05, 08:28 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Ivor Jones
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"Dave Gill" wrote in
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[snip]

Well so far Ofcom's attitude seems to be that VoIP is
healthy competition for the fixed line providers, so
maybe there would be a reasonably quick response if some
of the telcos started playing tricks.


Could prove interesting for overseas travel though if traffic is routed
via those countries trying to block VoIP. Or if you are using a provider
based in such a country.

Ivor


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Old October 22nd 05, 09:53 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
sean
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:23:22 +0100, Sean
wrote:


wrote:

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:54:49 +0100,
(Dave Gill) wrote:

From this week's New scientist:


"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people to the
internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use voice over
internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku


BTYahoo would have a job stopping calls as they promote their own
Yahoo communicator;-)
pete


Freedom 2 Surf have also just launched there own VoIP service..........


It ISN'T a real voip service I have asked technical support about it
you HAVE to use MS messenger with it and can only contact other F2S
customers with it .

I *did* say have *just* lanched a VoIP service, and they have. Try
checking websites of companies mentioned before saying it *ISN'T* real
http://www.f2s.com/voip/ This is all pretend?

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Old October 22nd 05, 10:30 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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Thus spaketh Sean:
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:23:22 +0100, Sean
wrote:


wrote:

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:54:49 +0100,
(Dave Gill) wrote:

From this week's New scientist:


"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people
to the internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use
voice over internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku


BTYahoo would have a job stopping calls as they promote their own
Yahoo communicator;-)
pete

Freedom 2 Surf have also just launched there own VoIP
service..........


It ISN'T a real voip service I have asked technical support about it
you HAVE to use MS messenger with it and can only contact other F2S
customers with it .

I *did* say have *just* lanched a VoIP service, and they have. Try
checking websites of companies mentioned before saying it *ISN'T* real
http://www.f2s.com/voip/ This is all pretend?




Not competitive at all, in fact it is dreadfully priced.


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Old October 22nd 05, 10:34 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
sean
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Default Backlash against free internet calls

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Thus spaketh Sean:

wrote:

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:23:22 +0100, Sean
wrote:



wrote:


On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:54:49 +0100,
(Dave Gill) wrote:


From this week's New scientist:


"MANY of the phone companies that own the wires connecting people
to the internet are gearing up to block free phone calls that use
voice over internet protocol (VoIP) technology."

Here's a link to the full article:

http://tinyurl.com/chzku


BTYahoo would have a job stopping calls as they promote their own
Yahoo communicator;-)
pete

Freedom 2 Surf have also just launched there own VoIP
service..........

It ISN'T a real voip service I have asked technical support about it
you HAVE to use MS messenger with it and can only contact other F2S
customers with it .


I *did* say have *just* lanched a VoIP service, and they have. Try
checking websites of companies mentioned before saying it *ISN'T* real
http://www.f2s.com/voip/ This is all pretend?





Not competitive at all, in fact it is dreadfully priced.


I know it is..... But it's ok for offpeak users i think
 




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