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Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft



 
 
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Old October 8th 03, 08:51 AM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Steve Sinclair
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Default Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft

Hi - I've used the feedback and advice etc. from this newsgroup to help me
get a hybrid P2P Microsoft network up and running with W2K and XP Pro
machines. It's been going for a while now and all OK.

Just for the sake of it I'm thinking of trying a client-server set up but
couldn't justify the cost for MS server licences. I haven't investigated
the costs for Linux software to run as the server. Can anyone comment on
the suitability of Linux for the server ? I have no previous Linux
experience and the only network experience I have is from setting up and
maintaining the P2P network above.

Thanks for any ideas

Steve


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Old October 8th 03, 09:11 AM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Paul Brewer
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Default Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft

Steve Sinclair wrote:

Hi - I've used the feedback and advice etc. from this newsgroup to
help me get a hybrid P2P Microsoft network up and running with W2K
and XP Pro machines. It's been going for a while now and all OK.

Just for the sake of it I'm thinking of trying a client-server set up
but couldn't justify the cost for MS server licences. I haven't
investigated the costs for Linux software to run as the server. Can
anyone comment on the suitability of Linux for the server ? I have
no previous Linux experience and the only network experience I have
is from setting up and maintaining the P2P network above.

Thanks for any ideas

Steve


Have a look at E-smith, download a free image from http://e-smith.org/.
Burn it onto a disk, boot from the disk and e-smith installs itself
with minimum input from you.

It's a Red-Hat Linux-based program, my copy picked-up all my hardware
(you'll need a Linux-recognised modem), installed itself easily, and
I've had it running on an old P266 box for over a year without having
to reboot ever. Once set-up it has a web-based admin, so you can leave
the box in a corner without a mouse,keyboard or monitor. I use it as a
fileserver and mail-server, if I had broadband I could also use it to
host my website.

Highly recommended (like you, I know nothing at all about Linux).

HTH

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Old October 8th 03, 10:25 AM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Steve Sinclair
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Default Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft

Thanks Paul. What you've described is exactly what I want to achieve - no
doubt more will come along. I'm off to E-Smith now. Thanks for the info.

Steve

"Paul Brewer" wrote in message
...
Steve Sinclair wrote:

Hi - I've used the feedback and advice etc. from this newsgroup to
help me get a hybrid P2P Microsoft network up and running with W2K
and XP Pro machines. It's been going for a while now and all OK.

Just for the sake of it I'm thinking of trying a client-server set up
but couldn't justify the cost for MS server licences. I haven't
investigated the costs for Linux software to run as the server. Can
anyone comment on the suitability of Linux for the server ? I have
no previous Linux experience and the only network experience I have
is from setting up and maintaining the P2P network above.

Thanks for any ideas

Steve


Have a look at E-smith, download a free image from http://e-smith.org/.
Burn it onto a disk, boot from the disk and e-smith installs itself
with minimum input from you.

It's a Red-Hat Linux-based program, my copy picked-up all my hardware
(you'll need a Linux-recognised modem), installed itself easily, and
I've had it running on an old P266 box for over a year without having
to reboot ever. Once set-up it has a web-based admin, so you can leave
the box in a corner without a mouse,keyboard or monitor. I use it as a
fileserver and mail-server, if I had broadband I could also use it to
host my website.

Highly recommended (like you, I know nothing at all about Linux).

HTH

--
Paul-B Reply-to address is spamtrap... use paul @ streetka dot biz
without the spaces



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Old October 8th 03, 01:26 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Bernard Peek
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Default Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft

In message , Steve
Sinclair writes
Hi - I've used the feedback and advice etc. from this newsgroup to help me
get a hybrid P2P Microsoft network up and running with W2K and XP Pro
machines. It's been going for a while now and all OK.

Just for the sake of it I'm thinking of trying a client-server set up but
couldn't justify the cost for MS server licences. I haven't investigated
the costs for Linux software to run as the server. Can anyone comment on
the suitability of Linux for the server ? I have no previous Linux
experience and the only network experience I have is from setting up and
maintaining the P2P network above.


It's not clear from your post just what benefits you expect to get from
switching to a client-server system. If you could clarify that it would
be easier to advise you on the best way of achieving the results you
want.

It is possible to get a Linux (or BSD) distribution for nothing. It will
include all of the software you need to set up file-sharing on a Windows
network. It will also include software for serving web-pages and for
setting up an SQL database server. You can download the software for
nothing or buy ready-made CDs from any number of suppliers.

You could buy a boxed Linux distro, with the disks you will get a manual
and some support. The current bargain is version 8.2 of SuSE Linux
available cheap from amazon.co.uk because version 9 has just been
released. If you have the budget get version 9 for about the cost of an
expense-account lunch.

Several Linux suppliers offer special server distros. They include some
more specialised tools and usually some commercial software in addition
to the free stuff. I'd advise starting out with a basic Linux distro
before moving on to the more expensive stuff.

This probably isn't on-topic in uk.comp.home-networking so you should
probably subscribe to uk.comp.os.linux and ask future questions there.



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Bernard Peek
London, UK. DBA, Manager, Trainer & Author. Will work for money.

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Old October 8th 03, 09:04 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Ian Northeast
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Default Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft

Bernard Peek wrote:

Several Linux suppliers offer special server distros. They include some
more specialised tools and usually some commercial software in addition
to the free stuff. I'd advise starting out with a basic Linux distro
before moving on to the more expensive stuff.


I run one of the expensive server distros at work (SuSE's Enterprise
server) and the only advantage it offers me over one of the
cheap-or-free ones is the support. There is support from SuSE, and, more
importantly, as I run Oracle on it, I can get support from Oracle
whereas I couldn't if I used the Professional edition. I havn't ever
needed support from SuSE, Linux is not difficult, but Oracle is another
matter entirely and I have definitely needed this.

For a home file etc. server this won't be relevant so go with one of the
cheap ones. The cost of a commercial Server Linux is comparable with a
Microsoft one anyway, about $800 a server.

This probably isn't on-topic in uk.comp.home-networking so you should
probably subscribe to uk.comp.os.linux and ask future questions there.


I don't see that it's actually OT here as it certainly appears to be
about a home network, but I agree, if you ask questions in ucol there is
much more Linux experience available there. Several of us who use it are
familiar with the issues of networking Linux with Windows too.

Regards, Ian
  #6  
Old October 13th 03, 11:04 AM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Mark Ferguson
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Posts: 6
Default Move to client server - Linux or Microsoft

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:25:18 +0100, Steve Sinclair wrote:

Thanks Paul. What you've described is exactly what I want to achieve - no
doubt more will come along. I'm off to E-Smith now. Thanks for the info.

Steve

"Paul Brewer" wrote in message
...
Steve Sinclair wrote:

Hi - I've used the feedback and advice etc. from this newsgroup to
help me get a hybrid P2P Microsoft network up and running with W2K and
XP Pro machines. It's been going for a while now and all OK.

Just for the sake of it I'm thinking of trying a client-server set up
but couldn't justify the cost for MS server licences. I haven't
investigated the costs for Linux software to run as the server. Can
anyone comment on the suitability of Linux for the server ? I have no
previous Linux experience and the only network experience I have is
from setting up and maintaining the P2P network above.

Thanks for any ideas

Steve


Have a look at E-smith, download a free image from http://e-smith.org/.
Burn it onto a disk, boot from the disk and e-smith installs itself with
minimum input from you.

It's a Red-Hat Linux-based program, my copy picked-up all my hardware
(you'll need a Linux-recognised modem), installed itself easily, and
I've had it running on an old P266 box for over a year without having to
reboot ever. Once set-up it has a web-based admin, so you can leave the
box in a corner without a mouse,keyboard or monitor. I use it as a
fileserver and mail-server, if I had broadband I could also use it to
host my website.

Highly recommended (like you, I know nothing at all about Linux).

HTH

--
Paul-B Reply-to address is spamtrap... use paul @ streetka dot biz
without the spaces

I used Smoothwall (http://www.smoothwall.org/) for aout 6 months and I was
very impressed with it. I stopped using it because it was too easy, I
wanted the hassle and frustration of building my own solution, I think
it's called a learning experience.......

Mark.


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no credit card debt. I can't wait to tell my Nigerian friend about it!

 




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