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Problems with WEP



 
 
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  #1  
Old November 13th 03, 08:50 PM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Tony Coyle
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Posts: 7
Default Problems with WEP

I have an hp laptop (bought in US) running win XP home with embedded
broadcom 54g network adapter (Broadcom 54g MaxPerformance 802.11g). I've
updated the drivers to the latest I could find (Broadcom, July 17 03,
version 3.30.15.0). I just bought & installed a USR 54G access point (model
USR808054) (bought in Switzerland!)

Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.

I have the feeling that the USR is a little more up to date (!) but can't
find how to update my XP network utilities to gain the higher encryption
rates.

HELP!

Mailstuff: fname=tonycoyle;dom=hispeed.ch
Mail to [fullname] at [dom]




  #2  
Old November 14th 03, 07:13 AM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Sam
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Posts: 2
Default Problems with WEP

Wow, I was going to post a message exactly like this, I have the same
problem, with the exact same hardware.

On USR's website they mention a "USR Configuration Utility" and even
show screenshots of it, (its a TSR that resides in the taskbar) but I
can't find the utility on the install CD or on their website.

Got my USR 8054 at Walmart last night, and...its probably going right
back!

From what I've read their support is almost non-existant.

-Sam



"Tony Coyle" wrote in message ...
I have an hp laptop (bought in US) running win XP home with embedded
broadcom 54g network adapter (Broadcom 54g MaxPerformance 802.11g). I've
updated the drivers to the latest I could find (Broadcom, July 17 03,
version 3.30.15.0). I just bought & installed a USR 54G access point (model
USR808054) (bought in Switzerland!)

Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.

I have the feeling that the USR is a little more up to date (!) but can't
find how to update my XP network utilities to gain the higher encryption
rates.

HELP!

Mailstuff: fname=tonycoyle;dom=hispeed.ch
Mail to [fullname] at [dom]

  #3  
Old November 14th 03, 07:17 AM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Sam
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Posts: 2
Default Problems with WEP

Wow, I was going to post a message exactly like this, I have the same
problem, with the exact same hardware.

On USR's website they mention a "USR Configuration Utility" and even
show screenshots of it, (its a TSR that resides in the taskbar) but I
can't find the utility on the install CD or on their website.

Got my USR 8054 at Walmart last night, and...its probably going right
back!

From what I've read their support is almost non-existant.

-Sam



"Tony Coyle" wrote in message ...
I have an hp laptop (bought in US) running win XP home with embedded
broadcom 54g network adapter (Broadcom 54g MaxPerformance 802.11g). I've
updated the drivers to the latest I could find (Broadcom, July 17 03,
version 3.30.15.0). I just bought & installed a USR 54G access point (model
USR808054) (bought in Switzerland!)

Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.

I have the feeling that the USR is a little more up to date (!) but can't
find how to update my XP network utilities to gain the higher encryption
rates.

HELP!

Mailstuff: fname=tonycoyle;dom=hispeed.ch
Mail to [fullname] at [dom]

  #4  
Old November 14th 03, 11:41 AM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
ian
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Default Problems with WEP


"Tony Coyle" wrote in message
...
I have an hp laptop (bought in US) running win XP home with embedded
broadcom 54g network adapter (Broadcom 54g MaxPerformance 802.11g). I've
updated the drivers to the latest I could find (Broadcom, July 17 03,
version 3.30.15.0). I just bought & installed a USR 54G access point

(model
USR808054) (bought in Switzerland!)

Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR

config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.

I have the feeling that the USR is a little more up to date (!) but can't
find how to update my XP network utilities to gain the higher encryption
rates.

HELP!

Mailstuff: fname=tonycoyle;dom=hispeed.ch
Mail to [fullname] at [dom]


40 = 64
104=128

difference relates to overheads in the system - select 40 on one and 64 on
the other and it should work fine!

HTH
Ian


  #5  
Old November 17th 03, 10:07 PM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Tony Coyle
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Posts: 7
Default Problems with WEP

Not exactly sure HOW this could be the same...

I sure don't know how to create a 64 bit key that is identical to a 40 bit
key....

or do I just ignore 24 bits (3 characters)... if so - which three?

hopefully, not the first three

THANKS

"ian" wrote in message
...

CLIPPED
Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR

config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.


40 = 64
104=128

difference relates to overheads in the system - select 40 on one and 64 on
the other and it should work fine!

HTH
Ian




  #6  
Old November 17th 03, 10:12 PM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Tony Coyle
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Posts: 7
Default Problems with WEP

SAM

I got it working using MAC ids to restrict access... but I'd prefer to have
encrypted packets flying through the air.... otherwise it's still easy to
'sniff' the dataflow.

I guess I'll try Ian's suggestion - but I don't hold much hope...

rgds
Tony

"Sam" wrote in message
om...
Wow, I was going to post a message exactly like this, I have the same
problem, with the exact same hardware.

On USR's website they mention a "USR Configuration Utility" and even
show screenshots of it, (its a TSR that resides in the taskbar) but I
can't find the utility on the install CD or on their website.

Got my USR 8054 at Walmart last night, and...its probably going right
back!

From what I've read their support is almost non-existant.

-Sam



"Tony Coyle" wrote in message

...
I have an hp laptop (bought in US) running win XP home with embedded
broadcom 54g network adapter (Broadcom 54g MaxPerformance 802.11g).

I've
updated the drivers to the latest I could find (Broadcom, July 17 03,
version 3.30.15.0). I just bought & installed a USR 54G access point

(model
USR808054) (bought in Switzerland!)

Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR

config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.

I have the feeling that the USR is a little more up to date (!) but

can't
find how to update my XP network utilities to gain the higher encryption
rates.

HELP!

Mailstuff: fname=tonycoyle;dom=hispeed.ch
Mail to [fullname] at [dom]



  #7  
Old November 19th 03, 04:03 PM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Bruce
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Posts: 11
Default Problems with WEP

The reason is that WEP only actually uses 104 bits for the encryption
key when you select 128bit encryption. The other 24 bits (=3
characters) are used for other stuff (not sure what but not
encryption). So if you are asked for a ASCII key for 128bit just enter
13 characters (not 16) on both the WAP and the client PC. Let us know
how you get on.

Thanks,

Bruce.




"Tony Coyle" wrote in message ...
Not exactly sure HOW this could be the same...

I sure don't know how to create a 64 bit key that is identical to a 40 bit
key....

or do I just ignore 24 bits (3 characters)... if so - which three?

hopefully, not the first three

THANKS

"ian" wrote in message
...

CLIPPED
Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR

config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.


40 = 64
104=128

difference relates to overheads in the system - select 40 on one and 64 on
the other and it should work fine!

HTH
Ian


  #8  
Old November 19th 03, 06:15 PM posted to comp.os.ms-windows.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,uk.comp.home-networking
Tony Coyle
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Posts: 7
Default Problems with WEP

Did some more reading... The other bits are internal to the WEP Protocol...
(they provide a dynamically public part for the overall encryption) so now I
have an encrypted network (suitable for now.. at least until I get & install
the upgrade to WPA for my router)

Thanks everyone!
"Bruce" wrote in message
om...
The reason is that WEP only actually uses 104 bits for the encryption
key when you select 128bit encryption. The other 24 bits (=3
characters) are used for other stuff (not sure what but not
encryption). So if you are asked for a ASCII key for 128bit just enter
13 characters (not 16) on both the WAP and the client PC. Let us know
how you get on.

Thanks,

Bruce.




"Tony Coyle" wrote in message

...
Not exactly sure HOW this could be the same...

I sure don't know how to create a 64 bit key that is identical to a 40

bit
key....

or do I just ignore 24 bits (3 characters)... if so - which three?

hopefully, not the first three

THANKS

"ian" wrote in message
...

CLIPPED
Problem: XP wants WEP network keys of 40 or 104 bits... but the USR

config
wants to create 64, 128, or 256 bits.


40 = 64
104=128

difference relates to overheads in the system - select 40 on one and

64 on
the other and it should work fine!

HTH
Ian




 




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