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![]() Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. I am not sure whether this can be achieved either by say rebooting an ADSL modem daily, or maybe there are still some ISPs out there who do dynamic I/P allocation. I know AOL used to be the ubiquitous example of an ISP that used dynamic I/P allocation but I really don't want to use them. Anyone know much about this topic as I have asked several professionals and none of them seem to know how I can achieve the desired effect. My Internet connection will most likely be through ADSL broadband, the ISP yet to be decided. TIA, -- Paul... |
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![]() Many (most?) ISPs provide dynamic IP addresses unless you pay more. But dynamic does not mean that it will cahnge regularly. Few, if any, disconnect and reconnect you just to change the IP address. Disconnecting, and reconnecting, from your end will mean that you are requesting an IP address from your ISP. Some while ago when I did this frequenlty (during a testing phase) I seemed to get the same one reallocated; currently doing that seems to mean that I get a new address. So disconnect/reconnect does not guarantee a new different IP address. HTH Chris "Paul Aitman" wrote in message ... Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. I am not sure whether this can be achieved either by say rebooting an ADSL modem daily, or maybe there are still some ISPs out there who do dynamic I/P allocation. I know AOL used to be the ubiquitous example of an ISP that used dynamic I/P allocation but I really don't want to use them. Anyone know much about this topic as I have asked several professionals and none of them seem to know how I can achieve the desired effect. My Internet connection will most likely be through ADSL broadband, the ISP yet to be decided. TIA, -- Paul... |
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![]() On 01/12/2005 Paul Aitman wrote: Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. Have a look at Demon (www.demon.net) - they offer a dynamic IP address on one of their home services. -- Jeff Gaines - Damerham Hampshire UK Using XanaNews 1.17.6.5 |
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![]() In within uk.comp.home-networking, 'Chris Watts' wrote: Many (most?) ISPs provide dynamic IP addresses unless you pay more. But dynamic does not mean that it will cahnge regularly. Few, if any, disconnect and reconnect you just to change the IP address. Disconnecting, and reconnecting, from your end will mean that you are requesting an IP address from your ISP. Some while ago when I did this frequenlty (during a testing phase) I seemed to get the same one reallocated; currently doing that seems to mean that I get a new address. So disconnect/reconnect does not guarantee a new different IP address. The way it seems to work (with dynamic allocation) is that if you reconnect before your old IP has been given out to someone else you reacquire it. If you wait a minute or five then it is usually a different one. Sometimes even seems to work that way on pstn dialup connections though it could be my imagination as I'd have thought it would require extra hardware to associate a CLID with an IP. Dave J |
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![]() Paul Aitman wrote: Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. Oh, go on - why!? |
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![]() In message , Linker3000 writes Paul Aitman wrote: Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. Oh, go on - why!? No really, it is just for a little extra privacy. I know more sites would probably track users with cookies than I/P addresses, but I would prefer that sites could not deduce it was me just because I was stuck with the same I/P address ad inifinitum. I am also not really interested in using any of those anonymiser packages like secure-tunnel etc etc... Thanks for all the feedback so far though! -- Paul... |
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![]() "Paul Aitman" wrote in message news ![]() In message , Linker3000 writes Paul Aitman wrote: Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. Oh, go on - why!? No really, it is just for a little extra privacy. I know more sites would probably track users with cookies than I/P addresses, but I would prefer that sites could not deduce it was me just because I was stuck with the same I/P address ad inifinitum. I am also not really interested in using any of those anonymiser packages like secure-tunnel etc etc... Thanks for all the feedback so far though! Pretty much all ADSL services are dynamic, and a static IP address is usually considered an extra and something only some more expensive ISPs offer. So you have quite a few ISPs to choose from. Just a quick thought, if you use a router, set the time out to a reasonable level, 30 minutes or whatever and I assume when it goes back in each time you are likely to have a new IP address. By the way, I agree with you entirely about your reason, as a friend of mine has a fixed IP address and is being targetted regularly by the same hackers, so I prefer (an have) a dynamic IP too, for the very same reason you want one. |
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![]() On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 17:57:30 -0000, "Robert Bass" wrote: By the way, I agree with you entirely about your reason, as a friend of mine has a fixed IP address and is being targetted regularly by the same hackers, so I prefer (an have) a dynamic IP too, for the very same reason you want one. that way you get the hackers that were targetting the previous user. Wow, great advance that is. Phil -- Usenet spam eaten by a Hamster http://www.tglsoft.de/ No more cable clowns :-)) Please do not feed or re-quote the trolls. |
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![]() In within uk.comp.home-networking, 'Phil Thompson' wrote: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 17:57:30 -0000, "Robert Bass" wrote: By the way, I agree with you entirely about your reason, as a friend of mine has a fixed IP address and is being targetted regularly by the same hackers, so I prefer (an have) a dynamic IP too, for the very same reason you want one. that way you get the hackers that were targetting the previous user. Wow, great advance that is. Don't you think there's a slightly greater (just above zero) chance of someone specifically targetting an IP on a static range on the grounds that it is always the same machine? Most of the script kiddie stuff revolves around scanning wide ranges of IPs looking for specific vulnerabilities and that, when combined with worms, makes up the vast majority of the attempts I've looked at. I've always thought that the only way you'd get a 'real' hacker poking at your system is if you give them a reason, and if you get one of those then a dynamic IP won't make a lot of difference as if there's *anything* you do that's distinctive they'll have a way to latch onto your current IP, and by the time you've logged off their software is installed. Dave J |
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![]() Paul Aitman wrote: In message , Linker3000 writes Paul Aitman wrote: Hi All, Most people seem to want and crave a static I/P address, however, for various reasons (none of them iffy honest) I need a variable one which will change with some degree of frequency. Oh, go on - why!? No really, it is just for a little extra privacy. I know more sites would probably track users with cookies than I/P addresses, but I would prefer that sites could not deduce it was me just because I was stuck with the same I/P address ad inifinitum. I am also not really interested in using any of those anonymiser packages like secure-tunnel etc etc... Thanks for all the feedback so far though! Having a variable IP address does not guarantee anonymity - your PC and router have a fixed MAC (Media Access Control) address that never changes and with the right software it's possible to identify the origin of any data packet through MAC addresses. |
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