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It's come to this...unfecking believable



 
 
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  #1  
Old May 31st 06, 08:31 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Dr Teeth
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Default It's come to this...unfecking believable

There is an ISP, Entanet that puts its customers on a "bad boys' pipe"
**before** they have used the bandwidth for which they have paid. I'm
sure I have it right and I still don't believe that somebody could
out-Plusnet Plusnet.

Check it out for yourselves
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showflat...=5&o=0&fpart=1
(watch any work wrapping).

Entanet does not deal directly with the public but works through
resellers.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
  #2  
Old May 31st 06, 09:41 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Stephen Chadfield
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Posts: 19
Default It's come to this...unfecking believable

Dr Teeth wrote:
There is an ISP, Entanet that puts its customers on a "bad boys' pipe"
**before** they have used the bandwidth for which they have paid. I'm
sure I have it right and I still don't believe that somebody could
out-Plusnet Plusnet.

Check it out for yourselves
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showflat...=5&o=0&fpart=1
(watch any work wrapping).

Entanet does not deal directly with the public but works through
resellers.


I first realised there was a problem when the ssh connection to my PC -
on an Entanet account - slowed to a crawl and I was getting a high
packet loss figu

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst
1. 192.168.1.1 0.0% 109 0.4 0.4 0.4 0.9
2. lns1.dsl.enta.net 13.9% 109 31.3 32.7 29.9 41.3
3. telehouse-east.core.enta.net 7.3% 109 33.5 33.2 31.7 48.7
4. gi2-2.telehouse-east2.core.enta. 8.3% 108 31.7 35.6 31.2 139.5
5. telehouse-north.core.enta.net 11.1% 108 32.7 45.0 31.3 212.6
6. 194.74.65.57 10.2% 108 32.7 33.3 31.7 43.0
7. core2-pos14-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.n 9.3% 108 33.7 38.5 31.7 191.1
8. mspstart2-fa1-0-0.ealing.fixed.b 11.1% 108 34.5 34.2 32.2 54.8
9. ftip002631776.mspstart2.ealing.f 10.2% 108 45.0 66.4 37.6 210.9

Note the "bad boy pipe" lns1.dsl.enta.net. As a point of reference my
tariff allows for 30GB off-peak. With five days of this month left I
have only used 8GB so far yet I appear to have had my connection
degraded this morning.

I am not impressed. Especially upsetting is that changes which degrade
the quality of service I am receiving from Entanet are never announced
voluntarily but have to dragged out of them by experienced users
spotting the effects.

--
Stephen Chadfield
http://www.chadfield.com/
  #3  
Old June 1st 06, 10:02 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Gizmo
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Posts: 248
Default It's come to this...unfecking believable


"Stephen Chadfield" wrote in message
...
Dr Teeth wrote:
There is an ISP, Entanet that puts its customers on a "bad boys' pipe"
**before** they have used the bandwidth for which they have paid. I'm
sure I have it right and I still don't believe that somebody could
out-Plusnet Plusnet.

Check it out for yourselves
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showflat...=5&o=0&fpart=1
(watch any work wrapping).

Entanet does not deal directly with the public but works through
resellers.


I first realised there was a problem when the ssh connection to my PC -
on an Entanet account - slowed to a crawl and I was getting a high
packet loss figu

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst
1. 192.168.1.1 0.0% 109 0.4 0.4 0.4 0.9
2. lns1.dsl.enta.net 13.9% 109 31.3 32.7 29.9 41.3
3. telehouse-east.core.enta.net 7.3% 109 33.5 33.2 31.7 48.7
4. gi2-2.telehouse-east2.core.enta. 8.3% 108 31.7 35.6 31.2 139.5
5. telehouse-north.core.enta.net 11.1% 108 32.7 45.0 31.3 212.6
6. 194.74.65.57 10.2% 108 32.7 33.3 31.7 43.0
7. core2-pos14-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.n 9.3% 108 33.7 38.5 31.7 191.1
8. mspstart2-fa1-0-0.ealing.fixed.b 11.1% 108 34.5 34.2 32.2 54.8
9. ftip002631776.mspstart2.ealing.f 10.2% 108 45.0 66.4 37.6 210.9

Note the "bad boy pipe" lns1.dsl.enta.net. As a point of reference my
tariff allows for 30GB off-peak. With five days of this month left I
have only used 8GB so far yet I appear to have had my connection
degraded this morning.

I am not impressed. Especially upsetting is that changes which degrade
the quality of service I am receiving from Entanet are never announced
voluntarily but have to dragged out of them by experienced users
spotting the effects.



If they're so bad, why do you stay with them ?


  #4  
Old June 1st 06, 10:22 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Dr Teeth
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Posts: 287
Default It's come to this...unfecking believable

I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when "Gizmo"
opened his gob and said:

If they're so bad, why do you stay with them ?


It's only just kicked off.

--
Cheers,

Guy

** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
  #5  
Old June 1st 06, 01:54 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Stephen Chadfield
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Posts: 19
Default It's come to this...unfecking believable

Gizmo wrote:

"Stephen Chadfield" wrote in message
I am not impressed. Especially upsetting is that changes which degrade
the quality of service I am receiving from Entanet are never announced
voluntarily but have to dragged out of them by experienced users
spotting the effects.



If they're so bad, why do you stay with them ?


I might not - but I do need some time to assess what the alternatives
are. Entanet (well, reseller UKFSN) are my first ADSL ISP after years
using an NTL cable modem. I am only just starting to get familiar with
the many ADSL companies and how they are perceived by their customers.

--
Stephen Chadfield
http://www.chadfield.com/
  #6  
Old June 1st 06, 04:00 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
ABC
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Posts: 145
Default It's come to this...unfecking believable


"Stephen Chadfield" wrote in message
...
Dr Teeth wrote:
There is an ISP, Entanet that puts its customers on a "bad boys' pipe"
**before** they have used the bandwidth for which they have paid. I'm
sure I have it right and I still don't believe that somebody could
out-Plusnet Plusnet.

Check it out for yourselves
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showflat...=5&o=0&fpart=1
(watch any work wrapping).

Entanet does not deal directly with the public but works through
resellers.


I first realised there was a problem when the ssh connection to my PC -
on an Entanet account - slowed to a crawl and I was getting a high
packet loss figu

Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst
1. 192.168.1.1 0.0% 109 0.4 0.4 0.4 0.9
2. lns1.dsl.enta.net 13.9% 109 31.3 32.7 29.9 41.3
3. telehouse-east.core.enta.net 7.3% 109 33.5 33.2 31.7 48.7
4. gi2-2.telehouse-east2.core.enta. 8.3% 108 31.7 35.6 31.2 139.5
5. telehouse-north.core.enta.net 11.1% 108 32.7 45.0 31.3 212.6
6. 194.74.65.57 10.2% 108 32.7 33.3 31.7 43.0
7. core2-pos14-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.n 9.3% 108 33.7 38.5 31.7 191.1
8. mspstart2-fa1-0-0.ealing.fixed.b 11.1% 108 34.5 34.2 32.2 54.8
9. ftip002631776.mspstart2.ealing.f 10.2% 108 45.0 66.4 37.6 210.9

Note the "bad boy pipe" lns1.dsl.enta.net. As a point of reference my
tariff allows for 30GB off-peak. With five days of this month left I
have only used 8GB so far yet I appear to have had my connection
degraded this morning.

I am not impressed. Especially upsetting is that changes which degrade
the quality of service I am receiving from Entanet are never announced
voluntarily but have to dragged out of them by experienced users
spotting the effects.

--
Stephen Chadfield
http://www.chadfield.com/


Don't forget that any companies that reduce your bandwidth before you reach
your limit are in breach of your contract with them.


  #7  
Old June 1st 06, 04:14 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Gizmo
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Posts: 248
Default It's come to this...unfecking believable


"Stephen Chadfield" wrote in message
news
Gizmo wrote:

"Stephen Chadfield" wrote in message
I am not impressed. Especially upsetting is that changes which degrade
the quality of service I am receiving from Entanet are never announced
voluntarily but have to dragged out of them by experienced users
spotting the effects.



If they're so bad, why do you stay with them ?


I might not - but I do need some time to assess what the alternatives
are. Entanet (well, reseller UKFSN) are my first ADSL ISP after years
using an NTL cable modem. I am only just starting to get familiar with
the many ADSL companies and how they are perceived by their customers.


Golden rule:
Buy cheap, get cheap

I'd highly recommend Demon


 




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