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virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?



 
 
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Old June 7th 06, 11:49 AM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
niz
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?

i received the mail confirming a speed upgrade to 8Mbps from virgin:

Line Speed: Up to 8192 Kbps

If you have requested a broadband speed upgrade:
Your new broadband speed upgrade is now active on your phone line. For it
to take effect, you need to reboot your computer and reconnect to
Virgin.net Broadband. If you use a router, you will need to reboot your
computer and router and reconnect to Virgin.net Broadband.

i am using a Toshiba WBG-1200A router. But i consistently only get around
4MBbps speeds.
e.g using the speedtester at adslguide:

downstream 4,173.5 Kbps (=4.1 Mbps)
upstream 376.0 Kbps (=04 Mbps)

The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds. what can i do?
any advice?

thx.


  #2  
Old June 7th 06, 12:43 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Gareth Halfacree
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?

niz wrote:
The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds. what can i do?
any advice?


11b will *never* reach 11Mb/s. Not even if you're a foot away from the
transceiver. If you're getting 4Mb/s from a wireless connection then
you're doing well.

Virgin advertise the service as 'up to 8Mb/s' - that means, translated
from marketese, anything between 256Kb/s to 8Mb/s depending on line
quality. It could well be that you are too far from the exchange or on
a sub-optimal line which is limiting you to 4Mb/s. This is not Virgin's
fault.

The alternative is that it is indeed the wireless that is limiting you.
The simple way to test would be the connect a wired system to the
broadband line - if that gets 8Mb/s then it's time for a new router; if
it also gets 4Mb/s then you're stuck with it.

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  #3  
Old June 7th 06, 01:13 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
niz
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?


"Gareth Halfacree" wrote in message
...
niz wrote:
The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds. what can i do?
any advice?


11b will *never* reach 11Mb/s. Not even if you're a foot away from the
transceiver. If you're getting 4Mb/s from a wireless connection then
you're doing well.


oops sorry - i didnt make clear i'm not using the wireless capability of the
router at all - so in fact my reference to its wireless transmission speed
is irrelevant. apologies.


Virgin advertise the service as 'up to 8Mb/s' - that means, translated
from marketese, anything between 256Kb/s to 8Mb/s depending on line
quality. It could well be that you are too far from the exchange or on a
sub-optimal line which is limiting you to 4Mb/s. This is not Virgin's
fault.

The alternative is that it is indeed the wireless that is limiting you.
The simple way to test would be the connect a wired system to the
broadband line - if that gets 8Mb/s then it's time for a new router; if it
also gets 4Mb/s then you're stuck with it.


indeed it is a wired system the way i'm using it. is there any way to check
if i'm too far from the exchange or on a sub-optimal line? i read that some
modems needed driver upgrades to handle 8Mbps speeds, but there is very
little online about the toshiba WBG-1200A ?



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Old June 7th 06, 01:54 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Peter M
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?

On 07 Jun 2006, "niz" wrote:

i received the mail confirming a speed upgrade to 8Mbps from virgin:


Line Speed: Up to 8192 Kbps


The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds.
what can i do? any advice?


So do you have the figures for line attenuation, SNR (or "margin")
and what are the actual sync speeds reported (I get 8000 /448 and
a few other variations here, though 8128 is often seen). Peter M
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Old June 7th 06, 02:31 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
niz
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?


"Peter M" wrote in message
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On 07 Jun 2006, "niz" wrote:

i received the mail confirming a speed upgrade to 8Mbps from virgin:


Line Speed: Up to 8192 Kbps


The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds.
what can i do? any advice?


So do you have the figures for line attenuation, SNR (or "margin")
and what are the actual sync speeds reported (I get 8000 /448 and
a few other variations here, though 8128 is often seen). Peter M


the toshiba WBG-1200A appears to have no diagnostics in its config
screens... is there any other way to get that information?


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Old June 7th 06, 03:54 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Dr Zoidberg
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?

niz wrote:
i received the mail confirming a speed upgrade to 8Mbps from virgin:

Line Speed: Up to 8192 Kbps


The important words here are "up to".
Your 8mb line has a theoretical max of this speed but it is a contended line
where you are sharing bandwidth with other users so you may not get the full
rate.

If you have requested a broadband speed upgrade:
Your new broadband speed upgrade is now active on your phone line.
For it to take effect, you need to reboot your computer and reconnect
to Virgin.net Broadband. If you use a router, you will need to reboot
your computer and router and reconnect to Virgin.net Broadband.

i am using a Toshiba WBG-1200A router. But i consistently only get
around 4MBbps speeds.
e.g using the speedtester at adslguide:

downstream 4,173.5 Kbps (=4.1 Mbps)
upstream 376.0 Kbps (=04 Mbps)

The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds. what can i
do? any advice?

Ok , first off try plugging your PC directly into the router on a 100 mb
ethernet port and re-run the speed tests.
Also try using Dan elwell's test here http://www.broadbandspeedtest.net/ for
a second opinion.

Do that a few times and you will see what speed your line is actually
providing.

Now swap back to the wireless connection sat next to the router and see if
you have any drop in speed.

As you move further away and the signal strength drops your wireless card
will drop from 11mb (right down to 1mb) so you will find it harder to get
the full speed of your connection.

If you are getting close to 8mb on a wired connection and only 4 wireless
then you will need to upgrade to a .11g connection


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Old June 7th 06, 04:19 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Gareth Halfacree
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?

niz wrote:
"Gareth Halfacree" wrote in message
...
11b will *never* reach 11Mb/s. Not even if you're a foot away from the
transceiver. If you're getting 4Mb/s from a wireless connection then
you're doing well.


oops sorry - i didnt make clear i'm not using the wireless capability of the
router at all - so in fact my reference to its wireless transmission speed
is irrelevant. apologies.


Heh! No problems.

indeed it is a wired system the way i'm using it. is there any way to check
if i'm too far from the exchange or on a sub-optimal line? i read that some
modems needed driver upgrades to handle 8Mbps speeds, but there is very
little online about the toshiba WBG-1200A ?


The easiest way to check would be to plug in a different router (or a
USB modem) and try that. If it gets the same speed as your existing
router it's clear that the problem exists in the line. Do you know of
anyone nearby who could lend you a router or modem to test the line
with? If not, I could lend you a USB ADSL modem; it came free from my
ISP but I use a router.

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http://gareth.halfacree.co.uk
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Old June 7th 06, 06:34 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Terry
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?


"niz" wrote in message
...
i received the mail confirming a speed upgrade to 8Mbps from virgin:

Line Speed: Up to 8192 Kbps

If you have requested a broadband speed upgrade:
Your new broadband speed upgrade is now active on your phone line. For it
to take effect, you need to reboot your computer and reconnect to
Virgin.net Broadband. If you use a router, you will need to reboot your
computer and router and reconnect to Virgin.net Broadband.

i am using a Toshiba WBG-1200A router. But i consistently only get around
4MBbps speeds.
e.g using the speedtester at adslguide:

downstream 4,173.5 Kbps (=4.1 Mbps)
upstream 376.0 Kbps (=04 Mbps)


What sort of cable run do you have between your house and the pole?
Twisted pair or twin core (older stuff). Twin core is usually grey and
looks like a figure 8, twisted pair is commonly black (and round).

What type do you have?

If you have twin core, it could well be letting you line quality down.




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Old June 8th 06, 05:46 PM posted to uk.comp.home-networking
Trev
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Default virgin.net 8Mbps with WBG-1200A router?


"niz" wrote in message
...
i received the mail confirming a speed upgrade to 8Mbps from virgin:

Line Speed: Up to 8192 Kbps

If you have requested a broadband speed upgrade:
Your new broadband speed upgrade is now active on your phone line. For it
to take effect, you need to reboot your computer and reconnect to
Virgin.net Broadband. If you use a router, you will need to reboot your
computer and router and reconnect to Virgin.net Broadband.

i am using a Toshiba WBG-1200A router. But i consistently only get around
4MBbps speeds.
e.g using the speedtester at adslguide:

downstream 4,173.5 Kbps (=4.1 Mbps)
upstream 376.0 Kbps (=04 Mbps)

The router is 802.11b but in theory that can achieve 11Mbps. the
documentation confirms "up to 8Mbps" ADSL download speeds. what can i do?
any advice?

thx.

Move house near to if not on top of the exchange



 




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