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![]() or what BT were calling '21CN day' "BT made communications history today with the transfer of the first customer lines to its 21st Century Network (21CN), the world's most advanced next generation network. As planned, BT has started to move customers in the village of Wick, near Cardiff, to the next generation infrastructure. The upgrade, which took place without the need for an engineer visit, new telephone, or a new telephone number, is part of the first phase of the national roll-out of 21CN. 21CN will bring a range of benefits to businesses and consumers over years to come. New voice, data, broadband and multimedia services will be delivered quicker and cheaper than before, including faster broadband. 21CN will also give customers more control over the way they use their services. The migration of the first customers to 21CN is a landmark event in BT's next generation network programme. To reach this important milestone BT has re-built around ten per cent of the UK's core national communications infrastructure, installed 21CN equipment at over 100 sites across the UK, and laid more than 2,300 kilometres of new fibre optic cable in South Wales. BT has also invested more than 1,500 man years in developing new IT systems to support the new network. Reaching this major milestone has also been the result of pan-industry collaboration through Consult21, a forum which provides a regular open platform for all communications providers to understand and influence BT's plans for 21CN. This includes the details of the roll-out programme, as it affects hundreds of communications providers across the UK. Paul Reynolds, chief executive of BT Wholesale and BT board sponsor for the 21CN programme said, "Today marks a symbolic and momentous occasion for BT, the communications industry and for the UK as 21CN, over three years in the making, starts to become real for customers. Alexander Graham Bell made the first telephone call 130 years ago - we are also making history with the first live UK customer calls using a carrier class, all IP network. Years of research and development, network build and design, rigorous trials and testing, together with open collaboration with the communications industry have culminated in this historic moment. A network transformation on this scale has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - it's happening now in South Wales, and the rest of the UK will follow over the next few years." Following the first phase of customer migrations in Wick, customers in Cardiff, Bridgend and the Pontypridd area will be the next to have their voice and broadband services transferred to 21CN. By the end of summer 2007, around 350,000 customer lines in South Wales are expected to have been migrated to the new infrastructure. When complete, 21CN will deliver existing and new converged communications services to homes and businesses nationwide. BT believes that the underlying network and the new services it will create, including the first nationwide wholesale broadband service offering planned speeds of up to 24 Mbit/s, will make converged communications faster, more efficient and more cost effective than ever before." From http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...b49fd423335%7d Regards Sunil |
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![]() On 29 Nov 2006, Copy Right Þ @ Þ wrote: Instead of copying the lot off the website why not just post the link and a few words of what it's about - surely that's enough? Where copyright of a "magazine" item is involved a precis of the item and a web link might be enough. However, for those who have no easy access to a browser, but read the newsgroup, or for those who later happen to read the newsgroup, and the web link fails (eg because of a reorganisation of all pages on the website, perhaps 5 years down the line) then having the article posted is a reasonable thing. If you don't want to download it, then your newsreader might be able to simply not download any post of 50+ lines, for example. This post, at well under 100 lines, is far from excessive, IMO, and whilst in some cases one would like the web link to be able to confirm that something posted is as is seen on the website, I for one, knowing that what Sunil posts is nearly always 100% correct, would prefer to be able to read the whole thing here (I didn't, but I've set my newsreader to keep anything posted by Sunil anyway, so it will be held on my HD for years, with posts from Phil Henry and others) rather than have to go off to some website (some of which 'force' their own 'musical' output on visitors) to get the full story. |
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![]() Copy Right wrote: [snip massive copy] From http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...b49fd423335%7d Instead of copying the lot off the website why not just post the link and a few words of what it's about - surely that's enough? You are new here? Sunil provides very useful postings and I for one like plenty of detail. I often read postings offline and can't automatically link. |
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![]() On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:27:21 -0000, [Sunil Sood] said :- or what BT were calling '21CN day' "BT made communications history today with the transfer of the first customer lines to its 21st Century Network (21CN), the world's most advanced next generation network. As planned, BT has started to move customers in the village of Wick, near Cardiff, to the next generation infrastructure. The upgrade, which took place without the need for an engineer visit, new telephone, or a new telephone number, is part of the first phase of the national roll-out of 21CN. Anyone from Wick 'here' ? Anyone know the size of the transfer? Wick appears not to be a very large place, so just wondering. |
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![]() In message of Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Richard Oliver writes Copy Right wrote: [snip massive copy] From http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...leid=%7b900187 09-f48e-409a-a1e4-9b49fd423335%7d Instead of copying the lot off the website why not just post the link and a few words of what it's about - surely that's enough? You are new here? Sunil provides very useful postings and I for one like plenty of detail. I often read postings offline and can't automatically link. As a casual reader, with casual interest, I found Sunil's post interesting. If he had posted as you suggest I probably wouldn't have bothered to go to the link. So, keep it up, Sunil, please. David |
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![]() On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:55:09 +0000, Spin Dryer wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:27:21 -0000, [Sunil Sood] said :- or what BT were calling '21CN day' "BT made communications history today with the transfer of the first customer lines to its 21st Century Network (21CN), the world's most advanced next generation network. As planned, BT has started to move customers in the village of Wick, near Cardiff, to the next generation infrastructure. The upgrade, which took place without the need for an engineer visit, new telephone, or a new telephone number, is part of the first phase of the national roll-out of 21CN. Anyone from Wick 'here' ? Anyone know the size of the transfer? Wick appears not to be a very large place, so just wondering. I'm from Wick but the last time I looked out of my window I was in Caithness and not in deepest Wales......................... |
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![]() From http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...b49fd423335%7d Instead of copying the lot off the website why not just post the link and a few words of what it's about - surely that's enough? Instead of whining just don't read it but then of course you would have no excuse for posting. It reminds me of people who try to censor tv shows because they don't like the content but watch it anyway so they have something to complain about. Life is a wonderful thing, so go and use it! |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:20:09 +0000, jasper wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:55:09 +0000, Spin Dryer wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:27:21 -0000, [Sunil Sood] said :- or what BT were calling '21CN day' "BT made communications history today with the transfer of the first customer lines to its 21st Century Network (21CN), the world's most advanced next generation network. As planned, BT has started to move customers in the village of Wick, near Cardiff, to the next generation infrastructure. The upgrade, which took place without the need for an engineer visit, new telephone, or a new telephone number, is part of the first phase of the national roll-out of 21CN. Anyone from Wick 'here' ? Anyone know the size of the transfer? Wick appears not to be a very large place, so just wondering. I'm from Wick but the last time I looked out of my window I was in Caithness and not in deepest Wales......................... You maybe but there are more in the UK than yours in fact all the ones below .......................... Wick, Caithness KW1 (UK) West Wick Weston-Super-Mare, Avon BS24 (UK) Hampton Wick Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey KT1 4 (UK) Wick Bristol, Avon BS30 (UK) Eton Wick Windsor, Berkshire SL4 6 (UK) Wick Littlehampton, West Sussex BN17 (UK) Wick Salisbury, Wiltshire SP5 3 (UK) Wick Cowbridge, South Glamorgan It's enough to get on your wick! |
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![]() David Floyd writes: Richard Oliver writes Copy Right wrote: From http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...leid=%7b900187 09-f48e-409a-a1e4-9b49fd423335%7d Instead of copying the lot off the website why not just post the link and a few words of what it's about - surely that's enough? You are new here? Sunil provides very useful postings and I for one like plenty of detail. I often read postings offline and can't automatically link. As a casual reader, with casual interest, I found Sunil's post interesting. If he had posted as you suggest I probably wouldn't have bothered to go to the link. So, keep it up, Sunil, please. hear, hear. i can set my newsreader to a size that's convenient for me. i've just gone to the bt site and it's too small so that i had to spend time adjusting before i could read it. as a general rule, i don't go to commercial sites if i can avoid it. while bt's a lot less bloody stupid than it used to be, the droids who design web sites seem far too often to like flashing graphics -- which hurt my eyes and drive me away at first glance. -- Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge |
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![]() On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 David Floyd wrote: In message of Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Richard Oliver writes Copy Right wrote: [snip massive copy] From http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...leid=%7b900187 09-f48e-409a-a1e4-9b49fd423335%7d Instead of copying the lot off the website why not just post the link and a few words of what it's about - surely that's enough? You are new here? Sunil provides very useful postings and I for one like plenty of detail. I often read postings offline and can't automatically link. As a casual reader, with casual interest, I found Sunil's post interesting. If he had posted as you suggest I probably wouldn't have bothered to go to the link. So, keep it up, Sunil, please. My sentiments exactly. -- Thoss |
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