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Old September 13th 17, 01:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
R. Mark Clayton[_2_]
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Default Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming andsocial media

On Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:44:10 UTC+1, 7 wrote:
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

On Monday, 11 September 2017 16:48:54 UTC+1, 7 wrote:
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Fake fibre sold by VM BT Offconn Openroach no good for gaming and
social media


Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic have all complained to Advertising
Standards Authority (ASA), but they still no action since 2008.

BT (British Telecum) offers similar upload speed to VM on 200mbit
service, but neither come close to similar priced products
from Gigaclear, Cityfibre and Hyperoptic with up to 1 gbit upload
speed enough for gaming, fast social media uploads, and for
whole family to use at the same time without compromising each
other's Internet experience.

The City is being overcharged and conned as well.
Their entire infrastructure is being overcharged and crippled
by BT (Brititsh Telecum) and encumbants.
City trading is 1000% crippled by slow internet
because British Telecum and Openroach don't know how
to install fibre with FPGA routers.

You don't have to use BT in the City of London

Yea sure with BT (British Telecum) being the biggest
provider in the area.

If the incumbents were deregulated and told to pack up and get lost
with Hyperoptic B4RN Citifibre Venus Metronet etc
being allowed agnostic access to ducts, and seats
on all Offconn committees then your claims have some merit.

You mean market entrants being allowed to use established infrastructure
for free and reap big profits as a result.

BTW Norweb Telecom (now part of Vodafone) laid fibre in a new trench to my
then office in Manchester FoC over twenty years ago (although they just
stuck an E1 optical concentrator on the end to give me ISDN).

How many trenches has Hype-er-optic paid for?

How did you work all that trolling material out for yourself?

The average cost of fibre install is 250 max - around 100 usually.

Funnily enough BT charge 130 for new copper, so probably pretty much the same for fibre.

The average cost of fibre per km install is 5000 on open
areas. Cities as high as 100k/km.


Each bundle can carry 10,000+ cable so average costs
push towards 100/km.

If there isn't fibre / ducting there then you still have to dig up.

But of course you want BT to pay the 100k/km and then pay them 100/km to piggy back on their capital expenditure.

The problem is down to whether the cable is then fitted
with a $14 transceiver or 10000+ piece of crap analogue

You guessed it - with Bhtee in the middle, they will
fit 10,000 piece of copper equipment to break
out a 1gbit line into hundreds of copper line.

This is like being given 4K teevee down a 1 gigabit
fibre line,

You don't need 1Gbps for 4k TV only about 50Mbps.

and if it were down to Bhtee, they would
fit a Cisco fibre router, then a PC to capture the video, down
convert to 425 line, and then transform it to black and
white, and then convert the fibre to copper signal
to send it down a twisted pair, and finally the fsckies
would put a black and white CRT Teevee in front of
you and claim the entire install costs 3000 and
that Bhtee had absorbed another 2000 in man power costs
so they are entitled to 5000 rebate from government.

And offconn would agree.

While all the time, the true install cost was 100
for the line, and $14 for the fibre modem.

Be in the pound shop soon I suppose...

If you though PPI mis-selling was bad, then
wait till your eyes are opened to the horrors of
Bhtee trolls selling their own kids and their
future down the river for moneeeey.