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Old February 20th 07, 11:05 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
ForeverArsenal
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Default BT broadband

Hi
Does anyone in here think that BT go that extra mile
to get the very best speed your line will support if your
signing up to BT broadband ,say with option 2 or 3 with
the hub.

Just wondering as I'm with plusnet and all it's woes and
get around 2500 kbps down,most of the time.P2P useless

Useing netgear DG834 router,high quality filters,and very good
internal wiring//extension.

Tend to sych at exchange approx 3200 kbps.

Friend next door with BT option 3 with hub/phone doing a BT
speed test says line will support 4500 kbps and he normaly gets
around 3500 to 4000 kbps down.

I know there are other thing that might affect the 2 lines ,but do wonder
if the BT hub works a whole lot better or something extra is done at
exchange if you are with BT.

Any thoughts ??getting a bit peed with Plusnet and considering mac
request.
--
Barry.


  #2  
Old February 21st 07, 08:38 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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Default BT broadband

Does anyone in here think that BT go that extra mile
to get the very best speed your line will support if your
signing up to BT broadband ,say with option 2 or 3 with
the hub.

Just wondering as I'm with plusnet and all it's woes and
get around 2500 kbps down,most of the time.P2P useless

Useing netgear DG834 router,high quality filters,and very good
internal wiring//extension.

Tend to sych at exchange approx 3200 kbps.

Friend next door with BT option 3 with hub/phone doing a BT
speed test says line will support 4500 kbps and he normaly gets
around 3500 to 4000 kbps down.

I know there are other thing that might affect the 2 lines ,but do
wonder if the BT hub works a whole lot better or something extra is
done at exchange if you are with BT.

Any thoughts ??getting a bit peed with Plusnet and considering mac
request.


It does not sound as though it is an ISP problem except for the P2P which is
a question of the policy PN apply. BT don't do anything special for their
option packages. If you sync with the exchange at 3200 then the most you are
going to get in practice is 2500. This is a function of the way BT use a
very conservative limit to prevent, in theory, and ISP sending data too
fast. Changing ISP is not going to alter that. If you want to improve things
then you need to start by plugging you modem/router into the test socket
behind the NTE5 faceplate. This will show what the true speed is. If it is
faster then you need to investigate why. Likely causes are poor quality
wiring or wiring faults and poor or faulty filters. It would be worth trying
another router/modem if you have access to one.

Peter Crosland



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Old February 21st 07, 12:29 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
ForeverArsenal
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Default BT broadband

Does anyone in here think that BT go that extra mile
to get the very best speed your line will support if your
signing up to BT broadband ,say with option 2 or 3 with
the hub.



"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...


It does not sound as though it is an ISP problem except for the P2P which
is a question of the policy PN apply. BT don't do anything special for
their option packages.
Peter Crosland



Hi Peter thanks for reply.

start by plugging you modem/router into the test socket behind the NTE5
faceplate. This will show what the true speed is.


Afraid nothing so fancy as a NTE5 socket here Peter (none of the houses
on estate got one either AFAIK ) just a small white matchbox size box,with
chocolate block terms in.
...............................
If it is
faster then you need to investigate why. Likely causes are poor quality
wiring or wiring faults and poor or faulty filters. It would be worth
trying another router/modem if you have access to one.

...............................
As stated filters are good quality (fujitsu) at approx 10 each when I got
them,
and have spare one I tried

Do own another Netgear DG 834 ADSL2+ with version 3 software and have
swopped several times but always go back to 834 with version 1 software
as it tends to synch at a higher speed.

As regards internal wiring with on1 extension was done by BT with best
cable not so long ago.

Been with +net 4 yrs but nowhere near the company they use to be,
P2P is all but blocked (even on PAYG) till after 12pm then every man and his
dog are
trying to P2P so much so that it slows it way down and lucky if you
get 20///30 kbps.

Mate next door 300---500 kbps.
Don't know if it's going to improve when BT get more involved or not.

Many thanks.
Barry





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Old February 21st 07, 01:18 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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Default BT broadband

Does anyone in here think that BT go that extra mile
to get the very best speed your line will support if your
signing up to BT broadband ,say with option 2 or 3 with
the hub.



"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...


It does not sound as though it is an ISP problem except for the P2P
which is a question of the policy PN apply. BT don't do anything
special for their option packages.
Peter Crosland



Hi Peter thanks for reply.

start by plugging you modem/router into the test socket behind the
NTE5 faceplate. This will show what the true speed is.


Afraid nothing so fancy as a NTE5 socket here Peter (none of the
houses on estate got one either AFAIK ) just a small white matchbox size
box,with chocolate block terms in.
..............................
If it is
faster then you need to investigate why. Likely causes are poor
quality wiring or wiring faults and poor or faulty filters. It would
be worth trying another router/modem if you have access to one.

..............................
As stated filters are good quality (fujitsu) at approx 10 each when
I got them,
and have spare one I tried

Do own another Netgear DG 834 ADSL2+ with version 3 software and have
swopped several times but always go back to 834 with version 1
software as it tends to synch at a higher speed.

As regards internal wiring with on1 extension was done by BT with best
cable not so long ago.

Been with +net 4 yrs but nowhere near the company they use to be,
P2P is all but blocked (even on PAYG) till after 12pm then every man
and his dog are
trying to P2P so much so that it slows it way down and lucky if you
get 20///30 kbps.

Mate next door 300---500 kbps.
Don't know if it's going to improve when BT get more involved or not.


It really does not sound as though it is an ISP problem nor, to be honest, a
BT one. Unless you are prepared to pay BT to come and fit an NTE5 socket so
that the internal wiring can be isolated I don't expect changing ISPs will
help. I would agree PN has gone through a bad time over the last few months
but my feeling is that even so changing ISP is not going to help much. AIUI
P2P during the night works quite well and there is not charge. Also remember
that there are chains of communication to PN that lots of other ISPs don't
have. Also BT as an ISP has no more clout with the BT Openreach division
that does the work on lines than any other ISP.

Peter Crosland



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Old February 21st 07, 03:00 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Eeyore
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Default BT broadband



ForeverArsenal wrote:

Hi
Does anyone in here think that BT go that extra mile
to get the very best speed your line will support if your
signing up to BT broadband ,say with option 2 or 3 with
the hub.


Not really. BT the ISP isn't the same compnay as BT the telephone company AIUI.
And the engineers are a different oufit too.


Just wondering as I'm with plusnet and all it's woes and
get around 2500 kbps down,most of the time.P2P useless


That's Plusnet for you ! Been there done that. They're far from being the worst
of the lot though.


Useing netgear DG834 router,high quality filters,and very good
internal wiring//extension.

Tend to sych at exchange approx 3200 kbps.

Friend next door with BT option 3 with hub/phone doing a BT
speed test says line will support 4500 kbps and he normaly gets
around 3500 to 4000 kbps down.

I know there are other thing that might affect the 2 lines ,but do wonder
if the BT hub works a whole lot better or something extra is done at
exchange if you are with BT.

Any thoughts ??getting a bit peed with Plusnet and considering mac
request.


You could try an established excellent ISP for a bit such as Zen ( I'd also
suggest Idnet but not until they get their new 'central pipe' in - maybe next
week ) and see how much difference it makes. They only have a 1 month contract
after all and their entry level home package is only 17.99.

Graham

  #6  
Old February 22nd 07, 08:28 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
ForeverArsenal
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Default BT broadband

"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
...

It does not sound as though it is an ISP problem except for the P2P
which is a question of the policy PN apply. BT don't do anything
special for their option packages.
Peter Crosland




It really does not sound as though it is an ISP problem nor, to be honest,
a BT one. P2P during the night works quite well and there is not charge


Hi Peter

Hmm,thats when I try to P2P after midnight,but lucky to get much faster than
20/40 kbps down even with lots of seeds/peers.
...........................
Also remember
that there are chains of communication to PN that lots of other ISPs don't
have.

...........................
Yes,do appreciate that point,has been a real bitch in the past year getting
though to them tho.
Has been better bit by bit over last few months,so will maybe sir tight for
a while
longer and see how it goes when BT get more involved.

Thanks for your input tho,new computer coming tomorrow (Fri) so will be off
line
for day or two.

Many thanks for all.
Barry







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Old February 22nd 07, 08:36 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
ForeverArsenal
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Posts: 15
Default BT broadband

"
ForeverArsenal wrote:

Hi
Does anyone in here think that BT go that extra mile
to get the very best speed your line will support


Eeyore" wrote in message
...



Not really. BT the ISP isn't the same compnay as BT the telephone company
AIUI.
And the engineers are a different oufit too.

...........................
Hi Eeyore

Just wondering as I'm with plusnet


That's Plusnet for you ! Been there done that. They're far from being the
worst
of the lot though.

...................................
Yes do understand what you mean re above,lot I like about them,ie the portal
page
is very handy to have most info at hand.

Suppose getting little jealous of friend's speeds next door.

Thanks for your reply,will give it more time.

Barry


 




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