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Orange Livebox tweaking ?



 
 
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Old March 13th 07, 05:12 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
PhilT
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Is it possible to adjust ring cadence, voltages etc on an Orange
livebox ?

My neighbour's won't ring a 2-line DECT phone although the phone shows
it is ringing on the handset. BT landline calls to the 2-line DECT
phone work fine. RJ11-BT adaptor with ring capacitor and ADSL
microfilter used on Livebox output makes a SWBell phone ring but not
the DECT.

Phil

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Old March 13th 07, 06:50 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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PhilT wrote:
My neighbour's won't ring a 2-line DECT phone although the phone shows
it is ringing on the handset. BT landline calls to the 2-line DECT
phone work fine. RJ11-BT adaptor with ring capacitor and ADSL
microfilter used on Livebox output makes a SWBell phone ring but not
the DECT.


I presume outbound calls all work ok?

Tim
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Old March 13th 07, 09:38 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Graham
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"PhilT" wrote in message
oups.com...
Is it possible to adjust ring cadence, voltages etc on an Orange
livebox ?

My neighbour's won't ring a 2-line DECT phone although the phone shows
it is ringing on the handset. BT landline calls to the 2-line DECT
phone work fine. RJ11-BT adaptor with ring capacitor and ADSL
microfilter used on Livebox output makes a SWBell phone ring but not
the DECT.

Phil


You are saying the DECT handset indicates it is ringing on its display, but
doesn't actually ring?
If so its one of three things:
1) The ringer is muted.
2) The phone is faulty.
3) I have misunderstood your problem.
As rule, DECT base stations don't need a ring signal on pin 3.
Have you tried plugging the DECT base into a BT line?
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Old March 14th 07, 12:33 AM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Ivor Jones
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"Graham" wrote in message


[snip]

You are saying the DECT handset indicates it is ringing
on its display, but doesn't actually ring?
If so its one of three things:
1) The ringer is muted.
2) The phone is faulty.
3) I have misunderstood your problem.
As rule, DECT base stations don't need a ring signal on
pin 3. Have you tried plugging the DECT base into a BT line?


It could be the ATA ringing output voltage. BT lines generally supply
ringing at around 75 volts or so, if the ATA is giving a lower voltage,
some phones might ring but others not.

Ivor


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Old March 14th 07, 06:47 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
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"Graham" wrote in message


[snip]

You are saying the DECT handset indicates it is ringing
on its display, but doesn't actually ring?
If so its one of three things:
1) The ringer is muted.
2) The phone is faulty.
3) I have misunderstood your problem.
As rule, DECT base stations don't need a ring signal on
pin 3. Have you tried plugging the DECT base into a BT line?


It could be the ATA ringing output voltage. BT lines generally supply
ringing at around 75 volts or so, if the ATA is giving a lower voltage,
some phones might ring but others not.

Ivor


But an incoming call has been signalled over the air interface,
so why doesn't the handset audibly ring?
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Old March 14th 07, 07:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
PhilT
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On Mar 14, 6:47 pm, "Graham" wrote:

But an incoming call has been signalled over the air interface,
so why doesn't the handset audibly ring?


this is the puzzling thing. It is repeatable in that switching the
Orange VoIP line to the other DECT input moves the syndrome to the
other channel.

We're trying another base unit.

Thinking more on your question I wondered if there was a "line 2 ring
handset 1" type config at work but that doesn't explain why switching
lines moves the problem.

Thanks,

Phil

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Old March 14th 07, 07:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Ivor Jones
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"Graham" wrote in message

"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
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[snip]

It could be the ATA ringing output voltage. BT lines
generally supply ringing at around 75 volts or so, if
the ATA is giving a lower voltage, some phones might
ring but others not. Ivor


But an incoming call has been signalled over the air
interface, so why doesn't the handset audibly ring?


As I said, maybe there isn't enough voltage. If the ATA has a setting for
it, try upping it a notch.

Ivor


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Old March 14th 07, 11:30 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
PhilT
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On Mar 14, 7:26 pm, "Ivor Jones" wrote:

As I said, maybe there isn't enough voltage. If the ATA has a setting for
it, try upping it a notch.


hence the OP looking for ways to tune the Livebox output.

Results from more testing are that the base station is detecting the
ring activity and this shows on the handset display as Line 1 ringing,
but there is no audible ring on the DECT handset (the base unit does
not have a ringer AFAIK).

If the Livebox is allowed to ring an old SW Bell cordless and the DECT
is plugged in mid-ring then the DECT handset rings for 2 or 3 rings.

The voltage on the Livebox output measured as Vdc with a digital meter
is 50V normally and when ringing this goes 40V - 0V - 40V in line with
the ring cadence.

A BT line measured in the same was is also at 50V initially but on
ringing flips to -50V. I expect this to be AC but measured it the same
way for consistency.


Phil

 




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