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Nicking someones wifi??



 
 
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Old April 17th 07, 07:43 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Beck
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...cs/6565079.stm

Two people have been cautioned for using people's wi-fi broadband internet
connections without permission.
Neighbours in Redditch, Worcestershire, contacted police on Saturday after
seeing a man inside a car using a laptop while parked outside a house.

He was arrested and cautioned. A woman was arrested in similar circumstances
in the town earlier this month.

BBC Midlands Today correspondent Dr David Gregory said the cases are among
the first of their kind.

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.

More on link above.

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Old April 17th 07, 08:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Stuart Millington
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:43:41 +0100, "Beck"
wrote:

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.


There /should/ be something to enable prosecution of the person who
set-up the network with inadequate security (or no security as is
likely).
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Old April 17th 07, 08:59 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Digby
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:43:41 +0100, "Beck"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...cs/6565079.stm

Two people have been cautioned for using people's wi-fi broadband internet
connections without permission.
Neighbours in Redditch, Worcestershire, contacted police on Saturday after
seeing a man inside a car using a laptop while parked outside a house.

He was arrested and cautioned. A woman was arrested in similar circumstances
in the town earlier this month.

BBC Midlands Today correspondent Dr David Gregory said the cases are among
the first of their kind.

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.

More on link above.


There was case in July 2005 where someone was fined 500 for the same
offence.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technolo...that_wifi.html
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Old April 17th 07, 09:27 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"Stuart Millington" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:43:41 +0100, "Beck"
wrote:

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.


There /should/ be something to enable prosecution of the person who
set-up the network with inadequate security (or no security as is
likely).


Although I agree that they are idiots, it would be like making it a criminal
offence if you don't lock your house and you get burgled.


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Old April 17th 07, 09:48 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jon
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declared for all the world to hear...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...cs/6565079.stm

Two people have been cautioned for using people's wi-fi broadband internet
connections without permission.
Neighbours in Redditch, Worcestershire, contacted police on Saturday after
seeing a man inside a car using a laptop while parked outside a house.

He was arrested and cautioned. A woman was arrested in similar circumstances
in the town earlier this month.

BBC Midlands Today correspondent Dr David Gregory said the cases are among
the first of their kind.

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.

More on link above.


It beggars belief that people cannot set up a simple password on their
wireless.

The numptys who broadcast unsecured wifi should be prosecuted for
stupidity (in addition to the naughty people nicking someone elses
broadband).
--
Regards
Jon
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Old April 17th 07, 09:49 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Lurch
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:21:13 +0100, Stuart Millington
mused:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:43:41 +0100, "Beck"
wrote:

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.


There /should/ be something to enable prosecution of the person who
set-up the network with inadequate security (or no security as is
likely).


Like you could be prosecuted for not locking your front door when
someone comes in and mugs you?

I think the pressure should be put on router and software
manufacturers to enable the highest level of security available
default on wireless devices and also provide warnings about the risks
of leaving a network unsecured when trying to set up a wireless LAN
with no security.

Although you don't get all these warnings with your front door lock.
--
Regards,
Stuart.
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Old April 17th 07, 09:50 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Colin Wilson
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There /should/ be something to enable prosecution of the person who
set-up the network with inadequate security (or no security as is
likely).


I'm not so sure on blaming the one who set up the network - perhaps
you mean the manufacturers or retailers ?

These days, routers are consumer level devices that are almost
completely plug-and-play - perhaps a little *too* easy in fact.

My point is you don't have to be able to recite the white book CD
standards when you buy a stereo, or know how a motor speed controller
works in a washing machine.
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Old April 17th 07, 09:50 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
John
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In article , steeler
writes

"Stuart Millington" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:43:41 +0100, "Beck"
wrote:

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.


There /should/ be something to enable prosecution of the person who
set-up the network with inadequate security (or no security as is
likely).


Although I agree that they are idiots, it would be like making it a criminal
offence if you don't lock your house and you get burgled.



If a WiFi network is not secure and a stranger is seen in the street
Warcharting via their laptop. Then the punishment should be the
householder going out with an exceedingly large and hot cup of tea for
the Warcharter. But the trick will be to fall and spill the contents of
the cup into the Warcharter's lap and laptop.
--
John Clark
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Old April 17th 07, 09:54 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Beck
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"Jon" wrote in message
et...

It beggars belief that people cannot set up a simple password on their
wireless.

The numptys who broadcast unsecured wifi should be prosecuted for
stupidity (in addition to the naughty people nicking someone elses
broadband).


Or perhaps it beggars belief that some isps do not show customers that they
should do it. A newbie to the internet may be totally unaware that wifi
requires security. With isps advertising free wifi routers everywhere, they
should be making sure that customers are aware of the security issues. They
cannot assume everybody is experienced in these things.

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Old April 17th 07, 09:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Beck
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"Digby" a wrote in message
news
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:43:41 +0100, "Beck"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...cs/6565079.stm

Two people have been cautioned for using people's wi-fi broadband internet
connections without permission.
Neighbours in Redditch, Worcestershire, contacted police on Saturday after
seeing a man inside a car using a laptop while parked outside a house.

He was arrested and cautioned. A woman was arrested in similar
circumstances
in the town earlier this month.

BBC Midlands Today correspondent Dr David Gregory said the cases are among
the first of their kind.

He added that if people were using someone else's network to enter illegal
porn sites, for example, it would be very difficult to trace them.

More on link above.


There was case in July 2005 where someone was fined 500 for the same
offence.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technolo...that_wifi.html


That raises an interesting point.
Its quite possible for someone to accidentally use another persons wifi.
Say if you have two neighbours, both with Belkin routers with the same SSID
and both unsecured, its possible the person may pick the wrong connection to
start with.
Perhaps its about time routers were shipped with blank SSIDs and the users
taken through a proper setup... give SSID a name and security key.
Fortunately some routers nowadays come with preinstalled keys, but not all.

 




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