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Old December 17th 07, 01:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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Trixboxers beware! Uncle Ward over at nerdvittles.com has posted an
interesting article concerning a previously undisclosed bot that is
hidden away in Trixbox. Basically, it does an "ET" and phones home
every morning at 3.41am.
Article he http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=198

Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.

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Old December 17th 07, 01:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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wrote:
Trixboxers beware! Uncle Ward over at nerdvittles.com has posted an
interesting article concerning a previously undisclosed bot that is
hidden away in Trixbox. Basically, it does an "ET" and phones home
every morning at 3.41am.
Article he
http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=198

Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.


You could just compile asterisk from source - it doesn't phone home.
Granted it won't have the pretty GUI that trixbox added.
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Old December 17th 07, 05:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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schreef:
Trixboxers beware! Uncle Ward over at nerdvittles.com has posted an
interesting article concerning a previously undisclosed bot that is
hidden away in Trixbox. Basically, it does an "ET" and phones home
every morning at 3.41am.
Article he
http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=198

Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.

I guess it's a plug for PBX-in-a-Flash ???

btw the bot is a feature, what i understand, and i guess is easy to
remove/switch off, what's the hassle ?

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Old December 17th 07, 07:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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On Dec 17, 6:57 pm, TheFug wrote:

Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.


I guess it's a plug for PBX-in-a-Flash ???


Well, OK yeah, I'll give it a plug! I've been a fan of Nerdvittles for
a while - they have helped a lot of budding [email protected] and
Trixboxers for some time now with a lot of cool extras.

Moving off Trixbox was something I'd been thinking of for a while for
a few reasons. Without going into great detail, the Fonality buyout
(or is it buyin?) of [email protected] seemed to herald a change of direction in
the project. I had also been looking at Elastix (which supposedly has
reliable faxability) and CentPBX as a replacement.

btw the bot is a feature, what i understand, and i guess is easy to
remove/switch off, what's the hassle ?


True. Yes, it *can* be switched off, and it was only sending back
"unidentifiable user stats" to HQ, but the point that I wouldn't feel
comfortable with is that they weren't exactly upfront about it. I
think it may have been better to make it a user option to send info as
part of the installation process or even include it as part of the
Terms and Conditions. But then again, how many of us really read those
before just clicking the accept button?

Anyway, that's my 2ps worth.
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Old December 18th 07, 08:10 AM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:57:21 -0500, voip wrote:

You could just compile asterisk from source - it doesn't phone home.
Granted it won't have the pretty GUI that trixbox added.


I can't be very scientific about it, but Trixbox is the only one that
I've managed to get to work with HFC cards.
I had no joy on Debian or Mandrake.

WIth Trixbox, ISTR it was pretty straightforward.
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Old December 18th 07, 11:28 AM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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In article ,
David Quinton wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:57:21 -0500, voip wrote:

You could just compile asterisk from source - it doesn't phone home.
Granted it won't have the pretty GUI that trixbox added.


I can't be very scientific about it, but Trixbox is the only one that
I've managed to get to work with HFC cards.
I had no joy on Debian or Mandrake.


The HFC cards are "generic" ISDN cards. Using the mISDN drivers they
"just work"...

My pbx-inna-box uses a Debian variant (booting from flash) and works
just fine with HFC cards...

So if you take the time to compile up your own asterisk & modules, etc.
then it might be worth it for you.

WIth Trixbox, ISTR it was pretty straightforward.


Maybe you need the GUI front-end independant of the underlying asterisk,
etc. so just install FreePBX after asterisk?

Gordon
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Old December 19th 07, 08:48 AM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:28:03 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:

My pbx-inna-box uses a Debian variant (booting from flash) and works
just fine with HFC cards...

So if you take the time to compile up your own asterisk & modules, etc.
then it might be worth it for you.


It was a year or two ago, but I'm pretty sure I can remember compiling
it from source (on the Mandrake - probably not with Debian)


WIth Trixbox, ISTR it was pretty straightforward.


Maybe you need the GUI front-end independant of the underlying asterisk,
etc. so just install FreePBX after asterisk?


I think you're right, Gordon.
Most of the stuff I'm doing overrides the Trixbox stuff anyway.
But it's working fine as the office PBX and seems to cope with the
Dialplan and PHPAGI apps I've been writing.
So, for time being at leaast "if it ain't broke..."
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Old December 20th 07, 05:50 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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schreef:
On Dec 17, 6:57 pm, TheFug wrote:

Makes me glad I moved away from Trixbox to PBX-in-a-Flash.

I guess it's a plug for PBX-in-a-Flash ???


Well, OK yeah, I'll give it a plug! I've been a fan of Nerdvittles for
a while - they have helped a lot of budding [email protected] and
Trixboxers for some time now with a lot of cool extras.

Moving off Trixbox was something I'd been thinking of for a while for
a few reasons. Without going into great detail, the Fonality buyout
(or is it buyin?) of [email protected] seemed to herald a change of direction in
the project. I had also been looking at Elastix (which supposedly has
reliable faxability) and CentPBX as a replacement.

btw the bot is a feature, what i understand, and i guess is easy to
remove/switch off, what's the hassle ?


True. Yes, it *can* be switched off, and it was only sending back
"unidentifiable user stats" to HQ, but the point that I wouldn't feel
comfortable with is that they weren't exactly upfront about it. I
think it may have been better to make it a user option to send info as
part of the installation process or even include it as part of the
Terms and Conditions. But then again, how many of us really read those
before just clicking the accept button?

Anyway, that's my 2ps worth.


Yes, and it's the great thing of Usenet, to share one's experience, i
understand "Flash" points out that it's fast, not that a thumb memory
stick is used, and that it's based on a CentOS Linux distro, i'm also
interested in setting up a PBX server, to connect my normal POTS phone
to, Internet,(VoIP/SIP) and my incomming POTS landline,
What's better to use, i now have a SPA3102 ATA, also have a grandstream
GXP2000 now...or is a Digium PCI card, a better solution ? ( i want to
be able to receive normal landline calls too) for phoning mostly by
VoIP/SIP ?

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Old December 21st 07, 12:13 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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On 20 Dec, 18:50, TheFug wrote:

Yes, and it's the great thing of Usenet, to share one's experience, i
understand "Flash" points out that it's fast, not that a thumb memory
stick is used, and that it's based on a CentOS Linux distro


Forgive me Fug if I misunderstand you, but I think maybe English is
not your first language. The name PBX-in-a-flash could have a couple
of meanings - 1) PBX in a flash (usb memory stick drive or flash card
maybe) or 2) as in the expression "in a flash" meaning in an instant,
rather than performing quickly - i.e. quick to setup. As a side note I
had tried a virtual Trixbox running on a Compact Flash card on a
Windows machine which worked, but not too well under a load of 2 or
more calls at once......

, i'm also
interested in setting up a PBX server, to connect my normal POTS phone
to, Internet,(VoIP/SIP) and my incomming POTS landline,
What's better to use, i now have a SPA3102 ATA, also have a grandstream
GXP2000 now...or is a Digium PCI card, a better solution ? ( i want to
be able to receive normal landline calls too) for phoning mostly by
VoIP/SIP ?


Any asterisk distribution will handle what you want to do. If you
don't want to get your hands too dirty, any of the distributions with
a GUI like FreePBX (trixbox, PBX-in-a-flash, elastix, centPBX etc)
makes setting up a working PBX very simple for untechy people like
myself. Even for techy people they can save a lot of time getting
things to work. Of course, as Gordon suggests abovr, you could install
FreePBX after installing asterisk.

The choice between a SPA3102 and a Digum card is down to you. The
Spa3012 is cheaper and does the job well. It's also probably easier to
set up to work reliably (some may disagree).
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Old December 22nd 07, 11:07 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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schreef:
On 20 Dec, 18:50, TheFug wrote:

Yes, and it's the great thing of Usenet, to share one's experience, i
understand "Flash" points out that it's fast, not that a thumb memory
stick is used, and that it's based on a CentOS Linux distro


Forgive me Fug if I misunderstand you, but I think maybe English is
not your first language.


Correct, i'm living in the Netherlands

The name PBX-in-a-flash could have a couple
of meanings - 1) PBX in a flash (usb memory stick drive or flash card
maybe)

so even you aren't sure...

or 2) as in the expression "in a flash" meaning in an instant,
rather than performing quickly - i.e. quick to setup. As a side note I
had tried a virtual Trixbox running on a Compact Flash card on a
Windows machine which worked, but not too well under a load of 2 or
more calls at once......

yeah, that's why i asked it, but from your answer, i guess it means the
both of them....are meant, by Flash: fast,(as in speed) and USB/CF
memory, i guess because there are also small mobo's (and thin servers)
that use only CompactFlash as storage...

, i'm also
interested in setting up a PBX server, to connect my normal POTS phone
to, Internet,(VoIP/SIP) and my incomming POTS landline,
What's better to use, i now have a SPA3102 ATA, also have a grandstream
GXP2000 now...or is a Digium PCI card, a better solution ? ( i want to
be able to receive normal landline calls too) for phoning mostly by
VoIP/SIP ?


Any asterisk distribution will handle what you want to do. If you
don't want to get your hands too dirty, any of the distributions with
a GUI like FreePBX (trixbox, PBX-in-a-flash, elastix, centPBX etc)
makes setting up a working PBX very simple for untechy people like
myself. Even for techy people they can save a lot of time getting
things to work. Of course, as Gordon suggests abovr, you could install
FreePBX after installing asterisk.

Thankyou for these tips...

The choice between a SPA3102 and a Digum card is down to you. The
Spa3012 is cheaper and does the job well. It's also probably easier to
set up to work reliably (some may disagree).


Thankyou, that saves a lot, because i allready have the spa3102...
I only thought the Asterisk software was more dedicated to the Digium
card, instead of the SPA3102, but i guess the SPA is also very populair,
lucky me..


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