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Wikipedia Censorship



 
 
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Old December 6th 08, 11:31 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Chris Hills
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
reported to work for those affected by the filter.

More information is on the report at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.

It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
applied to the proxy's address.
  #2  
Old December 6th 08, 11:54 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Bob Eager
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:31:56 UTC, Chris Hills wrote:

Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
reported to work for those affected by the filter.

More information is on the report at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.

It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
applied to the proxy's address.


Bloody typical. The IWF is a menace. Such covers are hardly new. This
one is even older (almost 40 years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album)
--
Bob Eager
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

  #3  
Old December 7th 08, 12:17 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Mark McIntyre
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:31:56 UTC, Chris Hills wrote:

Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer


Bloody typical. The IWF is a menace. Such covers are hardly new. This
one is even older (almost 40 years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album)


And the censorship isn't even useful or effective. Nobody is going to go
to wikipedia to find dodgy photos on Scorpion albums, they'll do a
websearch and find a gazillion links to the exact same image.

  #4  
Old December 7th 08, 07:18 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Ian Vandahl
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Default Wikipedia Censorship


"Chris Hills" wrote in message
...
Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell if
you are affected by going to the following url:-

Yes, it's all been publicised before and on many newsgroups today. very
boring attempt
to get a grou publicity. It has a picture of a young girl on the front,
that's all.
I think the IWF should pay more attention to companies and users of
uncensored
newsgroups. One major ISP in London used to advertise uncensored news at a
cost,
then reported every user of the porn groups to police, which isn't a bad
thing.
They were well known for blowing their own trumpet, or was it clarinet!
Another ISP that hosted a police web site in the mid 90's also used to offer
uncensored groups, even Demon supplied access to them. Talk about turning a
blind
eye. Why suddenly re companies bothered about censorship, is it just an
excuse to
reduce the amount of bandwidth!



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Old December 7th 08, 07:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Andy Burns
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

Ian Vandahl wrote:

it's all been publicised before and on many newsgroups today. very
boring attempt
to get a grou publicity.


Not a good attempt since it's taken 32 years to come to much attention.

It has a picture of a young girl on the front,
that's all.


Indeed, whether it is porn or mere nudity, I'll leave to someone else to
decide, but the risk is it does more harm to wikipedia than it can
possibly do good, considering how many other ways there are to find
album artwork, such as ... say amazon ...

One major ISP in London used to advertise uncensored news at a
cost,
then reported every user of the porn groups to police, which isn't a bad
thing.


You seem to think all porn is illegal ... What do you do on the Internet
that someone else may object to someday?

  #6  
Old December 7th 08, 08:05 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Chris Hills
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

On 07/12/08 20:26, Andy Burns wrote:
Indeed, whether it is porn or mere nudity, I'll leave to someone else to
decide, but the risk is it does more harm to wikipedia than it can
possibly do good, considering how many other ways there are to find
album artwork, such as ... say amazon ...


I for one would like the same filter to apply to Amazon. Not because I
agree with it, but because Amazon is a lot more likely to do something
about it than Wikimedia Foundation, whose position is that they don't care.
  #7  
Old December 7th 08, 08:30 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Andy Burns
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

Chris Hills wrote:

I for one would like the same filter to apply to Amazon. Not because I
agree with it, but because Amazon is a lot more likely to do something
about it than Wikimedia Foundation, whose position is that they don't care.


Then unrot and submit the following URL to IWF's "grassline"

uggc://jjj.nznmba.pbz/Genapr-Ivetva-Xvyyref-Fpbecvbaf/qc/O00027JA0T/
  #8  
Old December 8th 08, 01:31 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Eeyore
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Default Wikipedia Censorship



Chris Hills wrote:

Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer


No problem here, but I'd hardly expect IDNet to censor.Wouldn't an
alternative DNS fix the problem ?

Graham

  #9  
Old December 8th 08, 01:36 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Eeyore
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Posts: 3,222
Default Wikipedia Censorship



Bob Eager wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:31:56 UTC, Chris Hills wrote:

Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
reported to work for those affected by the filter.

More information is on the report at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.

It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
applied to the proxy's address.


Bloody typical. The IWF is a menace. Such covers are hardly new. This
one is even older (almost 40 years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album)


You beat me to it.

Graham

  #10  
Old December 8th 08, 02:00 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,alt.censorship
Cork Soaker
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Default Wikipedia Censorship

Chris Hills wrote:
Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
reported to work for those affected by the filter.

More information is on the report at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.

It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
applied to the proxy's address.



Hmmm, I tried this a few months ago and it wasn't blocked, now it is.

I'm quite honestly amazed.

Am I the only one that doesn't find this image offensive, and thinks
that everyone who does it completely bat**** insane?
 




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