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Old July 7th 09, 08:43 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Mitchell
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Hi all,

I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?

I understand that ISPs need to divvy up bandwidth and have long
restricted peak-time bandwidth to people going OTT on P2P and
BitTorrent, but the thrust of this article will be how non-torrent
users, such as Wimbledon fans, can come a cropper with some ISP
packages.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Stewart Mitchell
  #2  
Old July 7th 09, 04:50 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
George Weston
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Default Broadband throttling


"Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?

I understand that ISPs need to divvy up bandwidth and have long
restricted peak-time bandwidth to people going OTT on P2P and
BitTorrent, but the thrust of this article will be how non-torrent
users, such as Wimbledon fans, can come a cropper with some ISP
packages.

I look forward to hearing from you,


For Plusnet's throttling system, see
http://www.plus.net/support/broadban...nd/speed.shtml

At least they're up-front and honest.

George


  #3  
Old July 7th 09, 05:24 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Mitchell
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Default Broadband throttling

On Jul 7, 5:50*pm, "George Weston"
wrote:
"Mitchell" wrote in message

...

Hi all,


I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?


I understand that ISPs need to divvy up bandwidth and have long
restricted peak-time bandwidth to people going OTT on P2P and
BitTorrent, but the thrust of this article will be how non-torrent
users, such as Wimbledon fans, can come a cropper *with some ISP
packages.


I look forward to hearing from you,


For Plusnet's throttling system, seehttp://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml

At least they're up-front and honest.

George



Thanks for that George. You're right - upfront makes life that much
easier. I think it's the "unlimited" packages that are more likely to
cause issues for unwary consumers.
  #4  
Old July 7th 09, 05:46 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Christof Meerwald
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:43:47 -0700 (PDT), Mitchell wrote:
I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?


Have a look at
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/forums/prin...t=157078&pp=40 - Tiscali
blocking SixXS at various times, complete with tcpdumps (btw, access to any
NNTP server falls into the same category). I have since moved on to IDNet...


Christof

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  #5  
Old July 7th 09, 06:18 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Graham.
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"Christof Meerwald" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:43:47 -0700 (PDT), Mitchell wrote:
I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?


Have a look at
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/forums/prin...t=157078&pp=40 - Tiscali
blocking SixXS at various times, complete with tcpdumps (btw, access to
any
NNTP server falls into the same category). I have since moved on to
IDNet...


He's a journo, posting to Usenet using Google Groups FFS. Is that going to
mean
anything to him, or his "mainstream" readers?
[No offence intended :-) ]

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


  #6  
Old July 7th 09, 06:27 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
if
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Default Broadband throttling

Mitchell wrote:
I think it's the "unlimited" packages that are more likely to
cause issues for unwary consumers.


"Unlimited" is one of those curious words, as with "flammable" and
"inflammable", it turns out the "limited" and "unlimited" mean the same
thing, at least as far as ISPs are concerned.
  #7  
Old July 8th 09, 12:01 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Mark McIntyre
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Mitchell wrote:
the thrust of this article will be how non-torrent
users, such as Wimbledon fans, can come a cropper with some ISP
packages.


You seem to be presupposing this to be the case. I would suggest it'd be
more thorough journalism to study whether it is or not, rather than
searching for evidence to support your assumption.
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Old July 8th 09, 09:04 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Clive
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Default Broadband throttling


"Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?

Tiscali did it because they had their own TV service, so they restricted
P2P services such as BBCi and 4OD. They also put such strict
restrictions in place that they blocked access to their own news servers!

I understand that ISPs need to divvy up bandwidth and have long
restricted peak-time bandwidth to people going OTT on P2P and
BitTorrent, but the thrust of this article will be how non-torrent
users, such as Wimbledon fans, can come a cropper with some ISP
packages.


Some ISPs are also in financial difficulty and impose restrictions because
they can not pay for bandwidth that they tell customers they can use.
You would be better off lookig at false claims such as "UNLIMITED"
usage - when it is clearly limited. ISPA and ASA refuse to deal with
this.

Restricted bandwidth is nothing to do with people going mad with P2P.
That's what BBCi and 4OD use. It's people going wild with NNTP
that started all this off.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Stewart Mitchell



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Old July 8th 09, 09:05 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Clive
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Default Broadband throttling


"Mitchell" wrote in message
...
On Jul 7, 5:50 pm, "George Weston"
wrote:
"Mitchell" wrote in message

...

Hi all,


I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?


I understand that ISPs need to divvy up bandwidth and have long
restricted peak-time bandwidth to people going OTT on P2P and
BitTorrent, but the thrust of this article will be how non-torrent
users, such as Wimbledon fans, can come a cropper with some ISP
packages.


I look forward to hearing from you,


For Plusnet's throttling system,
seehttp://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml

At least they're up-front and honest.

George



Thanks for that George. You're right - upfront makes life that much
easier. I think it's the "unlimited" packages that are more likely to
cause issues for unwary consumers.

It is the use of the word "UNLIMITED" that is clearly false.


  #10  
Old July 8th 09, 09:06 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Clive
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Default Broadband throttling


"Graham." wrote in message
...


"Christof Meerwald" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:43:47 -0700 (PDT), Mitchell wrote:
I am a freelance journalist writing a piece for a mainstream consumer
computer magazine looking at how ISPs throttle bandwidth during peak
times, and how this impacts subscribers. Have you or anyone you know
had a bad experience with any ISP that has curtailed your enjoyment of
services such as iPlayer?


Have a look at
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/forums/prin...t=157078&pp=40 - Tiscali
blocking SixXS at various times, complete with tcpdumps (btw, access to
any
NNTP server falls into the same category). I have since moved on to
IDNet...


He's a journo, posting to Usenet using Google Groups FFS. Is that going to
mean
anything to him, or his "mainstream" readers?
[No offence intended :-) ]

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

It's only because he is a crap journalist! If he was any good he wouldn't
be
asking in a newsgroup.


 




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