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Skype shutdown speculation stories



 
 
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Old August 1st 09, 11:57 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
alexd
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Seems to be lots of this in the media of late:

http://news.google.com/news/more?ncl...ul_pYcqYoRE4NM

due to a licensing dispute over Skype's technology. Ebay must be wondering
WTF they spent $2.6 billion on.

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Old August 2nd 09, 09:16 AM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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In article , alexd
writes
Seems to be lots of this in the media of late:

http://news.google.com/news/more?ncl...ul_pYcqYoRE4NM

due to a licensing dispute over Skype's technology. Ebay must be wondering
WTF they spent $2.6 billion on.


I read a while ago (probably here) that Skype were looking at using the
SIP protocol, perhaps this explains why !!

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Old August 2nd 09, 10:58 AM posted to uk.telecom.voip
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kkm wrote:

I read a while ago (probably here) that Skype were looking at using the
SIP protocol, perhaps this explains why !!


Do you mean this?:

www.skype.com/go/sip/

The fact that Skype has its own protocol that can traverse more types of
network configuration than Plain Old SIP can is the main contributing factor
for it becoming popular. Perhaps Ebay should leak everything they know about
the protocol to encourage development of third-party clients. Or talk to
Google about their gTalk XMPP voice stuff.

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Old August 2nd 09, 01:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
R. Mark Clayton
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"alexd" wrote in message
...
Seems to be lots of this in the media of late:

http://news.google.com/news/more?ncl...ul_pYcqYoRE4NM

due to a licensing dispute over Skype's technology. Ebay must be wondering
WTF they spent $2.6 billion on.

The nub of the case is: -

"
Joltid [the original IP owner] alleges that Skype "should not possess, use
or modify certain software source code" and that eBay has disclosed some of
that code in US patent cases following US court orders. It is seeking to
revoke Skype's licence on the basis of copyright infringement and misuse of
confidential information.
"

Well pretty obviously Skype did have a license, but the second point would
seek to oust jurisdiction of the courts, which even if it were in the
contract would be void and severable in UK (i.e. the rest of the contract
stands and any clause that says the rule of law does not apply can be
ignored). I don't know bout US law, but I can't see this being any
different.


Any end user who used proprietary Skype was gullible to say the least. Same
true about just about anything Apple and quite a lot of Sony.



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Old August 3rd 09, 05:49 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Ian Pawson
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alexd wrote:
kkm wrote:

I read a while ago (probably here) that Skype were looking at using the
SIP protocol, perhaps this explains why !!


Do you mean this?:

www.skype.com/go/sip/

The fact that Skype has its own protocol that can traverse more types of
network configuration than Plain Old SIP can is the main contributing factor
for it becoming popular. Perhaps Ebay should leak everything they know about
the protocol to encourage development of third-party clients. Or talk to
Google about their gTalk XMPP voice stuff.



No, it's because they use their subscribers bandwidth to route calls and
thus have less bandwidth of their own server to cope with and so more
profit for them.
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Old August 3rd 09, 06:16 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Gordon Henderson
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In article , kkm wrote:
In article , alexd
writes
Seems to be lots of this in the media of late:

http://news.google.com/news/more?ncl...ul_pYcqYoRE4NM

due to a licensing dispute over Skype's technology. Ebay must be wondering
WTF they spent $2.6 billion on.


I read a while ago (probably here) that Skype were looking at using the
SIP protocol, perhaps this explains why !!


And interestingly Digium (keepers of Asterisk) have just anounced a beta
test of their Skype to Asterisk channel driver...

Looks like it will be licensed on a per-channel basis.

Gordon
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Old August 3rd 09, 07:07 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
alexd
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Ian Pawson wrote:

alexd wrote:


The fact that Skype has its own protocol that can traverse more types of
network configuration than Plain Old SIP can is the main contributing
factor for it becoming popular.


No, it's because they use their subscribers bandwidth to route calls and
thus have less bandwidth of their own server to cope with and so more
profit for them.


An organisation like eBay is not going to be wanting for bandwidth, and if
they were so bothered about profits they wouldn't have signed a deal where
they're on the hook for recurring licensing fees to JoltId.

If they didn't have a client that was easy to install and use, they wouldn't
have a bandwidth problem to deal with, either, because they'd have nowhere
near as many users!

Ebay have an opportunity to turn this into a good news story about what
happens when you move from proprietary to open, but I get the feeling they
won't.

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