I am considering changing my ISP. I have read about traffic shaping,
which I understand basically means slowing certain types of traffic at
busy times. I understand BT uses traffic shaping techniques.

My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

"Scott" wrote in message
...
I am considering changing my ISP. I have read about traffic shaping,
which I understand basically means slowing certain types of traffic at
busy times. I understand BT uses traffic shaping techniques.

My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Each ISP has its own policies on traffic shaping.

Scott wrote:
I am considering changing my ISP. I have read about traffic shaping,
which I understand basically means slowing certain types of traffic at
busy times. I understand BT uses traffic shaping techniques.

My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Note also that different ISPs have different ways of dealing with
"excess" bandwidth use. These may include:

a) temporary reduction of QoS when periodic limits exceeded / high
contention rates
b) change of tariff
c) per Gbyte excess fees
d) temporary withdrawal of service when periodic limits exceeded / no
access for e.g. remainder of month

Rgds

Denis McMahon

On 01/03/2010 21:45, Scott wrote:
My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Have you any particular ISP's in mind? If you have, then we might be
able to advise further.

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|Support Home & Business @
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"Plusnet Support Team" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2010 21:45, Scott wrote:
My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Have you any particular ISP's in mind? If you have, then we might be able
to advise further.

--
|Bob Pullen Broadband Solutions for
|Support Home & Business @
|Plusnet Plc. www.plus.net
+--------------- twitter.com/plusnet ----------------

I'm sure your advice will be completely impartial.

On 02/03/2010 11:11, Mr Benn wrote:
"Plusnet Support wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2010 21:45, Scott wrote:
My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Have you any particular ISP's in mind? If you have, then we might be able
to advise further.

I'm sure your advice will be completely impartial.

Absolutely. I've been around long enough to have a reasonable grasp of
most popular ISP's traffic management policies (or know somebody that does).

For comparison purposes, our policies are explained here -
http://www.plus.net/support/broadban...nagement.shtml

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|Bob Pullen Broadband Solutions for
|Support Home & Business @
|Plusnet Plc. www.plus.net
+--------------- twitter.com/plusnet ----------------

"Scott" wrote in message
...
I am considering changing my ISP. I have read about traffic shaping,
which I understand basically means slowing certain types of traffic at
busy times. I understand BT uses traffic shaping techniques.

My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Well I think if you use some ISPs they can slow you down also the BT
exchange equipment can get in on the act too.
I would suggest an ISP with its own equipment at the exchange it called LLU.
I'm with Be Unlimited not a cheapo at £17 per month but my speed is ok.
Regards
David

On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:55:33 +0000, Plusnet Support Team wrote:

On 02/03/2010 11:11, Mr Benn wrote:
"Plusnet Support wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2010 21:45, Scott wrote:
My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Have you any particular ISP's in mind? If you have, then we might be able
to advise further.

I'm sure your advice will be completely impartial.

Absolutely. I've been around long enough to have a reasonable grasp of
most popular ISP's traffic management policies (or know somebody that does).

For comparison purposes, our policies are explained here -
http://www.plus.net/support/broadban...nagement.shtml

OK, so Binary Usenet (on Value, evenings) is 50kb; Download Sites are
256kb: are these correct?
I take only non-binary groups so presumably these aren't limited.
As for Download Sites, that speed is about 30kB/s - is the lower-case 'b'
intentional?
--
Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.

In message , Denis McMahon
wrote
Scott wrote:
I am considering changing my ISP. I have read about traffic shaping,
which I understand basically means slowing certain types of traffic at
busy times. I understand BT uses traffic shaping techniques.

My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Note also that different ISPs have different ways of dealing with
"excess" bandwidth use. These may include:

a) temporary reduction of QoS when periodic limits exceeded / high
contention rates
b) change of tariff
c) per Gbyte excess fees
d) temporary withdrawal of service when periodic limits exceeded / no
access for e.g. remainder of month


or completely block ports for 6 hours or more, during peak periods.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On 02/03/2010 12:50, PeterC wrote:
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:55:33 +0000, Plusnet Support Team wrote:

On 02/03/2010 11:11, Mr Benn wrote:
"Plusnet Support wrote in message
o.uk...
On 01/03/2010 21:45, Scott wrote:
My question is if I change to an ISP that claims to use BT's
infrastructure (leased capacity) will I automatically become caught up
by BT's traffic shaping or does each ISP determine its own policies?

Have you any particular ISP's in mind? If you have, then we might be able
to advise further.

I'm sure your advice will be completely impartial.

Absolutely. I've been around long enough to have a reasonable grasp of
most popular ISP's traffic management policies (or know somebody that does).

For comparison purposes, our policies are explained here -
http://www.plus.net/support/broadban...nagement.shtml

OK, so Binary Usenet (on Value, evenings) is 50kb; Download Sites are
256kb: are these correct?
I take only non-binary groups so presumably these aren't limited.

So long as the server your using doesn't carry binary groups.

As for Download Sites, that speed is about 30kB/s - is the lower-case 'b'
intentional?

Yes.

--
|Bob Pullen Broadband Solutions for
|Support Home & Business @
|Plusnet Plc. www.plus.net
+--------------- twitter.com/plusnet ----------------