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Orange Broadband server down last night ?



 
 
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Old October 30th 10, 11:48 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
cmwb
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ?

Hi,
Anyone else lose Orange Broadband last night ?

Went off about 19:10 BST, Livebox attempted to connect but reported PPP
server error or something.

On satellite of Penrith exchange (so no Orange unbundle here)

Was expecting to see some posts about it, perhaps it was just localised ?

Regards
cmwb


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Old October 30th 10, 12:05 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ?

"cmwb" wrote in message
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Hi,
Anyone else lose Orange Broadband last night ?

Went off about 19:10 BST, Livebox attempted to connect but reported PPP
server error or something.

On satellite of Penrith exchange (so no Orange unbundle here)

Was expecting to see some posts about it, perhaps it was just localised ?



Probably related to this. 01768 was one of the affected exchanges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11656851

Peter Crosland


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Old October 30th 10, 03:14 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
S Viemeister
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ?

On 10/30/2010 5:48 AM, cmwb wrote:
Hi,
Anyone else lose Orange Broadband last night ?

Went off about 19:10 BST, Livebox attempted to connect but reported PPP
server error or something.

On satellite of Penrith exchange (so no Orange unbundle here)

Was expecting to see some posts about it, perhaps it was just localised ?

There were major BB outages across much of the UK yesterday.
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Old October 30th 10, 08:27 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ?

I've been fielding calls from customers since last night on this effing
outage. At least two of them said they'd phoned BT and the stooges at the
call centres didn't even mention the outage so they obviously knew sod all
about it. Unbelievable!!!! 1,000 plus exchanges affected and BT techs (by
techs I mean call-centre drones) are blithely unaware. One of them even had
my customer do a hard reset on his router without checking that it wasn't in
fact a BT Hub, thereby losing the guy's broadband settings and wireless
security all in one go. "Infinity" my arse!!!!!!!!


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Old October 30th 10, 10:21 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Gaius
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ? (BT Network Outage)

The latest seems to be that the failure may persist until Tuesday. It
sounds like the 20CN BRAS servers in Edinburgh are out.

FFS - this is supposed to be the "Critical National Infrastructure" -
and it's been designed with unpatchable single points of failure. That's
what happens when you let bean counters overrule professional design
engineers.


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Old October 30th 10, 10:53 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ? (BT Network Outage)

"Gaius" wrote in message
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The latest seems to be that the failure may persist until Tuesday. It
sounds like the 20CN BRAS servers in Edinburgh are out.

FFS - this is supposed to be the "Critical National Infrastructure" -
and it's been designed with unpatchable single points of failure. That's
what happens when you let bean counters overrule professional design
engineers.



No. It is what happens when you allow "Critical National Infrastructure" to
be run by a de facto monopoly PLC that is allowed to do just as it pleases.

Peter Crosland


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Old October 30th 10, 11:07 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Pete Zahut
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ? (BT Network Outage)

Peter Crosland wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
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The latest seems to be that the failure may persist until Tuesday. It
sounds like the 20CN BRAS servers in Edinburgh are out.

FFS - this is supposed to be the "Critical National Infrastructure" -
and it's been designed with unpatchable single points of failure.
That's what happens when you let bean counters overrule professional
design engineers.



No. It is what happens when you allow "Critical National
Infrastructure" to be run by a de facto monopoly PLC that is allowed
to do just as it pleases.


But it doesn't do as it pleases - it does what the bean counters say it can
do rather than letting the engineers do what needs to be done. And I speak
as an ex BT guy with 17 years service, who is still in contact with the guys
I used to work with.


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Old October 30th 10, 11:37 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ? (BT Network Outage)

"Pete Zahut" wrote in message
news
Peter Crosland wrote:
"Gaius" wrote in message
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The latest seems to be that the failure may persist until Tuesday. It
sounds like the 20CN BRAS servers in Edinburgh are out.

FFS - this is supposed to be the "Critical National Infrastructure" -
and it's been designed with unpatchable single points of failure.
That's what happens when you let bean counters overrule professional
design engineers.



No. It is what happens when you allow "Critical National
Infrastructure" to be run by a de facto monopoly PLC that is allowed
to do just as it pleases.


But it doesn't do as it pleases - it does what the bean counters say it
can do rather than letting the engineers do what needs to be done. And I
speak as an ex BT guy with 17 years service, who is still in contact with
the guys I used to work with.



Which is exactly my point! It is entirely profit driven. Of course if it
were Government run matters would be even worse.

Peter Crosland


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Old October 31st 10, 12:16 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
MB
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ? (BT Network Outage)



"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
o.uk...

"Gaius" wrote in message
...
The latest seems to be that the failure may persist until Tuesday. It
sounds like the 20CN BRAS servers in Edinburgh are out.

FFS - this is supposed to be the "Critical National Infrastructure" -
and it's been designed with unpatchable single points of failure. That's
what happens when you let bean counters overrule professional design
engineers.



No. It is what happens when you allow "Critical National Infrastructure" to
be run by a de facto monopoly PLC that is allowed to do just as it pleases.

Peter Crosland


Has any real hint of what went wrong filtered through yet?

I notice on the BT Community Forums someone said that it is now suggested
that 1.2 million were affected, that sounds much more likely than 20,000 as
claimed earlier today but have no idea whether it came from an official
source.

BT seem to be keeping their heads down apart from saying how hard their
people are working to rectify the faults.


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Old October 31st 10, 12:19 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Martin Jay
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Default Orange Broadband server down last night ? (BT Network Outage)

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:21:23 +0100, Gaius wrote:

The latest seems to be that the failure may persist until Tuesday. It
sounds like the 20CN BRAS servers in Edinburgh are out.

FFS - this is supposed to be the "Critical National Infrastructure" -
and it's been designed with unpatchable single points of failure. That's
what happens when you let bean counters overrule professional design
engineers.


Would we still get broadband for 15 a month (or less)?
--
Martin Jay
 




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