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Options for no landline connection.



 
 
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Old June 23rd 11, 06:31 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Sla#s
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A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.
They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Yes, I have tried to explain but ... ... :-(

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use their
wireless network for a small payment - 7 a week! Yes, that's not a
misprint - a week!
I think this is a 'bit' excessive considering the user is a total newbie and
wouldn't know how to download a torrent even if they knew what a torrent
was.

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to the
world?

TIA
Slatts


  #2  
Old June 23rd 11, 07:48 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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"Sla#s" wrote in message
...
A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.
They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Yes, I have tried to explain but ... ... :-(

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use their
wireless network for a small payment - 7 a week! Yes, that's not a
misprint - a week!
I think this is a 'bit' excessive considering the user is a total newbie
and wouldn't know how to download a torrent even if they knew what a
torrent was.

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to the
world?



They can get a new line installed along with broadband for less! Shop around
for the deals.

Peter Crosland


  #3  
Old June 23rd 11, 08:18 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
fred
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In article , Sla#s
writes
A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.


Well done them!

They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Do they live in a town/city or are they out in the sticks?

If they're in a reasonable population centre then they may be able to
get mobile broadband. To get this you most commonly buy a 3G mobile
internet dongle for about 20quid then pay about 15quid a month for
between 1 and 3GB worth of data per month depending on the provider.

To check whether this is an option for them you will need to check 3G
coverage at their house. Go to each of the mobile providers' websites
and look at their mobile broadband coverage maps. If it says 'excellent'
then they may be ok, anything less and they will need to be lucky.

Most basic is plugging the dongle into the laptop usb port which is ok
in a good signal area. There are solutions for poorer signal areas such
as mounting the dongle remotely via an extension cable or plugging it
into a dedicated wireless access point which is very neat but really you
need to check their 3G coverage before taking this any further. Find out
this and report back for further advice.

Good luck.
--
fred
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Old June 23rd 11, 08:51 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
tim....
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"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Sla#s
writes
A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.


Well done them!

They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Do they live in a town/city or are they out in the sticks?

If they're in a reasonable population centre then they may be able to get
mobile broadband. To get this you most commonly buy a 3G mobile internet
dongle for about 20quid then pay about 15quid a month for between 1 and
3GB worth of data per month depending on the provider.



For such a user I would recommend a PAYG "contract". He may find that it
doesn't suit and have to get a LL/BB instead. He doesn't want to be stuck
with a 12 (or 18) month 3G contract if this happens


  #5  
Old June 23rd 11, 09:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Scott
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:54:03 -0500, NCO wrote:

In reply to "Sla#s" who wrote the following:

A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.
They have two problems
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Yes, I have tried to explain but ... ... :-(

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use their
wireless network for a small payment - 7 a week! Yes, that's not
misprint - a week!
I think this is a 'bit' excessive considering the user is a total newbie and
wouldn't know how to download a torrent even if they knew what a torrent
was.

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to the
world?

TIA
Slatts


You can get a landline (50GB usage, 2 more gets you 75GB) + phone for as little
as 27 per month via Xilo, your exchange must be TalkTalk enabled, Xilo resells
the service, they only use TalkTalk's equipment, not support or backhaul (which
is their own) so the service is excellant (30 day contract but 48 ceasation fee
within 12 months, afterwards drops to 30).


Would that include installation of the line? I can't make sense of
their website (which is not displaying correctly) but usually such
offers are conditional on their being an existing BT landline. OP
says they don't have a landline.

Would there be a cap on the cost? Otherwise, if a new customer lives
in a farm in the middle of nowhere Xilo would be stuck with installing
maybe two kilometres of cable plus telegraph poles etc for which
Openreach might charge thousands of pounds.
  #6  
Old June 23rd 11, 10:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
J B
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On 23/06/2011 18:31, Sla#s wrote:

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use their
wireless network for a small payment - 7 a week! Yes, that's not a
misprint - a week!

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to the
world?


Maybe 'send the boys round' next door and tell them not to be so bloody
greedy.

--
J B
  #7  
Old June 23rd 11, 10:24 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
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Sla#s wrote:
A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.
They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Yes, I have tried to explain but ... ... :-(

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use their
wireless network for a small payment - �7 a week! Yes, that's not a
misprint - a week!
I think this is a 'bit' excessive considering the user is a total newbie and
wouldn't know how to download a torrent even if they knew what a torrent
was.

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to the
world?

TIA
Slatts


payg phone and broadband only 27 a month from IDNET. Line installation
is of course extra.


https://www.idnet.net/solutions/home/broadbandphone/
  #8  
Old June 23rd 11, 10:25 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
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Scott wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:54:03 -0500, NCO wrote:

In reply to "Sla#s" who wrote the following:

A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.
They have two problems
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Yes, I have tried to explain but ... ... :-(

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use their
wireless network for a small payment - 7 a week! Yes, that's not
misprint - a week!
I think this is a 'bit' excessive considering the user is a total newbie and
wouldn't know how to download a torrent even if they knew what a torrent
was.

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to the
world?

TIA
Slatts

You can get a landline (50GB usage, 2 more gets you 75GB) + phone for as little
as 27 per month via Xilo, your exchange must be TalkTalk enabled, Xilo resells
the service, they only use TalkTalk's equipment, not support or backhaul (which
is their own) so the service is excellant (30 day contract but 48 ceasation fee
within 12 months, afterwards drops to 30).


Would that include installation of the line? I can't make sense of
their website (which is not displaying correctly) but usually such
offers are conditional on their being an existing BT landline. OP
says they don't have a landline.


idnet do the same deal. Its 90 quid in general to have a phone line put
in IIRC.

..
Would there be a cap on the cost? Otherwise, if a new customer lives
in a farm in the middle of nowhere Xilo would be stuck with installing
maybe two kilometres of cable plus telegraph poles etc for which
Openreach might charge thousands of pounds.


Ask for a quote on them and IDNET. my guess is they are reselling
identical services.
  #9  
Old June 23rd 11, 10:47 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
fred
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In article , tim....
writes

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , Sla#s
writes
A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to join the
20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap top and now want
to connect to the internet.


Well done them!

They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Do they live in a town/city or are they out in the sticks?

If they're in a reasonable population centre then they may be able to get
mobile broadband. To get this you most commonly buy a 3G mobile internet
dongle for about 20quid then pay about 15quid a month for between 1 and
3GB worth of data per month depending on the provider.


For such a user I would recommend a PAYG "contract". He may find that it
doesn't suit and have to get a LL/BB instead. He doesn't want to be stuck
with a 12 (or 18) month 3G contract if this happens

Didn't know they did such ridiculous contract lengths for just a dongle
but yes, PAYG or 30 notice contract would be sensible, true PAYG prob
best to start with as if you stop using you don't need to remember to
cancel, you just stop paying. Mifi option too of course but let's see if
they can get coverage.
--
fred
FIVE TV's superbright logo - not the DOG's, it's ********
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Old June 24th 11, 11:07 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Steve Terry
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Default Options for no landline connection.

Sla#s wrote:
A previously totally technophobic friend has decided they want to
join the 20th century, they've bought themselves a second hand lap
top and now want to connect to the internet.
They have two problems -
1. They have no land line.
2. They have no money (retired pensioner) to get one - but see below!

Yes, I have tried to explain but ... ... :-(

Anyway, a next door neighbour has "kindly" offered to let them use
their wireless network for a small payment - 7 a week! Yes, that's
not a misprint - a week!
I think this is a 'bit' excessive considering the user is a total
newbie and wouldn't know how to download a torrent even if they knew
what a torrent was.

Has anyone a better suggestion as how a poor newbie could connect to
the world?
TIA
Slatts

Is he near a O2 3g cell?
If so a Giffgaff PAYG sim with any 10 per month goodybag add on
will give him unlimited 3g data.

Use it in a 3g USB dongle or in a tethered HSDPA smartphone
like an unlocked Skype S2 to also use the inclusive mins / text

Steve Terry
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Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and 5 bonus after activation at:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk


 




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