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Increase in Virgin Media prices



 
 
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Old February 8th 12, 02:46 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Guy Barry
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices

I've just been informed by Virgin Media that their broadband prices are
increasing by £1.50 a month from 1st April. Unfortunately, I can't do
anything about it, because they have a monopoly over the cable service (I
don't have a traditional phone line).

Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over the
conventional phone network?

--
Guy Barry


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Old February 8th 12, 05:18 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
David
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices



"Guy Barry" wrote in message ...


Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over the
conventional phone network?


Not understanding you on this, BT have recently installed a fiber network
here and selling it as Infinity other ISP use it too.
Regards
David

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Old February 8th 12, 06:16 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Peter Crosland
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices

"Guy Barry" wrote in message
...
I've just been informed by Virgin Media that their broadband prices are
increasing by £1.50 a month from 1st April. Unfortunately, I can't do
anything about it, because they have a monopoly over the cable service (I
don't have a traditional phone line).

Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over
the
conventional phone network?



You should try calling them and say you are going to give them notice. There
is a strong chance they will back down and not increase the price.

Peter Crosland


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Old February 8th 12, 07:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Jasper
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:18:29 -0000, "David"
wrote:



"Guy Barry" wrote in message ...


Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over the
conventional phone network?


Not understanding you on this, BT have recently installed a fiber network
here and selling it as Infinity other ISP use it too.
Regards
David


Which is fine if you are in an Infinity cabled area - unfortunately
the vast majority of the country isn't

Jasper
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Old February 8th 12, 08:43 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
George Weston
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices

On 08/02/2012 17:18, David wrote:


"Guy Barry" wrote in message ...


Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over the
conventional phone network?


Not understanding you on this, BT have recently installed a fiber
network here and selling it as Infinity other ISP use it too.
Regards
David


That's what he meant...
BT have to offer their copper and fibre networks to other ISPs.
Virgin can - and do - keep their cable network to themselves.

George
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Old February 8th 12, 08:51 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
David
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices



"George Weston" wrote in message ...

On 08/02/2012 17:18, David wrote:


"Guy Barry" wrote in message ...


Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over
the
conventional phone network?


Not understanding you on this, BT have recently installed a fiber
network here and selling it as Infinity other ISP use it too.
Regards
David


That's what he meant...
BT have to offer their copper and fibre networks to other ISPs.
Virgin can - and do - keep their cable network to themselves.

Thanks now I understand.
Yes does not seem fair, but of course at present BT is FTTC and Virgin goes
all the way to home.
Is it Virgin not want to sub let to ISPs or are they not allowed to?
I would then expect ISPs to leave BT and go with Virgin provided money OK.
Regards
David

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Old February 8th 12, 09:14 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
George Weston
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices

On 08/02/2012 20:51, David wrote:


"George Weston" wrote in message ...

On 08/02/2012 17:18, David wrote:


"Guy Barry" wrote in message ...


Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their
monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs
over the
conventional phone network?


Not understanding you on this, BT have recently installed a fiber
network here and selling it as Infinity other ISP use it too.
Regards
David


That's what he meant...
BT have to offer their copper and fibre networks to other ISPs.
Virgin can - and do - keep their cable network to themselves.

Thanks now I understand.
Yes does not seem fair, but of course at present BT is FTTC and Virgin
goes all the way to home.
Is it Virgin not want to sub let to ISPs or are they not allowed to?
I would then expect ISPs to leave BT and go with Virgin provided money OK.
Regards
David


Virgin doesn't want to.
In any case, Virgin's cable network only covers the big cities and towns
and I don't believe they have any plans to extend into less-profitable
territory.

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Old February 8th 12, 10:19 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Woody
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices

"David" wrote in message
...


"George Weston" wrote in message
...

On 08/02/2012 17:18, David wrote:


"Guy Barry" wrote in message
...


Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain
their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up
theirs over the
conventional phone network?


Not understanding you on this, BT have recently installed a
fiber
network here and selling it as Infinity other ISP use it too.
Regards
David


That's what he meant...
BT have to offer their copper and fibre networks to other ISPs.
Virgin can - and do - keep their cable network to themselves.

Thanks now I understand.
Yes does not seem fair, but of course at present BT is FTTC and
Virgin goes all the way to home.
Is it Virgin not want to sub let to ISPs or are they not
allowed to?
I would then expect ISPs to leave BT and go with Virgin
provided money OK.
Regards
David



Actually FTTH on Virgin is still in ...virgin... territory. FTTC
almost everywhere has been the standard for a decade or more, but
still coax to the home - so they can add a twisted pair for the
phone.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


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Old February 9th 12, 12:06 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
R. Mark Clayton
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices


"Guy Barry" wrote in message
...
I've just been informed by Virgin Media that their broadband prices are
increasing by £1.50 a month from 1st April. Unfortunately, I can't do
anything about it, because they have a monopoly over the cable service (I
don't have a traditional phone line).

Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over
the
conventional phone network?

--
Guy Barry



Basically because BT inherited a network installed at public expense,
whereas Virgin (or their predecessors) built theirs from scratch. BT
therefore has a universal service provision and must carry traffic to other
SP's.


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Old February 9th 12, 09:20 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
thesimpsons
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Default Increase in Virgin Media prices


"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
...

"Guy Barry" wrote in message
...
I've just been informed by Virgin Media that their broadband prices are
increasing by £1.50 a month from 1st April. Unfortunately, I can't do
anything about it, because they have a monopoly over the cable service (I
don't have a traditional phone line).

Can anyone explain why Virgin have been allowed to maintain their
monopoly
over the cable network while BT have been forced to give up theirs over
the
conventional phone network?

--
Guy Barry



Basically because BT inherited a network installed at public expense,
whereas Virgin (or their predecessors) built theirs from scratch. BT
therefore has a universal service provision and must carry traffic to
other SP's.


BT i.e. their share holders paid the goverment of the day for the network,
it was not inherited and the BT fibre network has also been built from
scratch.


 




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