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Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?



 
 
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Old April 14th 13, 09:58 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?

London - need one urgentish.

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Old April 14th 13, 10:33 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 14/04/13 21:58, 7 wrote:
Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?

London - need one urgentish.

with internet?
or just point to point?
Info several years old, but would expect 50k with internet

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Old April 14th 13, 11:40 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:


London - need one urgentish.

with internet?
or just point to point?
Info several years old, but would expect 50k with internet



Just pure internet with 5 fixed IP addresses to run a couple of servers
only. 50K is out of order for today.
I understood these days it was good enough for small business to purchase
(not knowing what that really means) because of fiber to cabinet.


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Old April 15th 13, 06:41 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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In article ,
7 [email protected] .com wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:


London - need one urgentish.

with internet?
or just point to point?
Info several years old, but would expect 50k with internet



Just pure internet with 5 fixed IP addresses to run a couple of servers
only. 50K is out of order for today.
I understood these days it was good enough for small business to purchase
(not knowing what that really means) because of fiber to cabinet.


FTTC/FTTP is still carried over BT's contended wholesale network. Leased
lines are typically un-contended (with symetric speeds, no caps,
etc. ie. proper Internet access) - the contention set by the ISP not
the carrier.

And there are dozens of not 100's of ISPs other than BT to give you this
service too.

Expect to pay somewhere in the region of 0-3500 for the install and
probably round about 1000/month for 100Mb/sec service. That's based
on prices in Devon - it should be a lot cheaper in London. I mostly use
HNS for leased lines - http://www.hns.net/ Going to the ISP can often
be advantageous as they have deals with the fibre carriers, so don't
need to be dependant on the carrier for the actual data.

For an instant quote, try he http://clueless.aa.net.uk/etherquote.cgi
but prices do vary and AAISP are typically at the expensive end of the
market, however their support is generally top-notch.

Gordon
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Old April 15th 13, 07:39 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
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Default Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?

On 15/04/13 06:41, Gordon Henderson wrote:
In article ,
7 [email protected] .com wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:


London - need one urgentish.

with internet?
or just point to point?
Info several years old, but would expect 50k with internet


Just pure internet with 5 fixed IP addresses to run a couple of servers
only. 50K is out of order for today.
I understood these days it was good enough for small business to purchase
(not knowing what that really means) because of fiber to cabinet.

FTTC/FTTP is still carried over BT's contended wholesale network. Leased
lines are typically un-contended (with symetric speeds, no caps,
etc. ie. proper Internet access) - the contention set by the ISP not
the carrier.

And there are dozens of not 100's of ISPs other than BT to give you this
service too.

Expect to pay somewhere in the region of 0-3500 for the install and
probably round about 1000/month for 100Mb/sec service. That's based
on prices in Devon - it should be a lot cheaper in London. I mostly use
HNS for leased lines - http://www.hns.net/ Going to the ISP can often
be advantageous as they have deals with the fibre carriers, so don't
need to be dependant on the carrier for the actual data.

For an instant quote, try he http://clueless.aa.net.uk/etherquote.cgi
but prices do vary and AAISP are typically at the expensive end of the
market, however their support is generally top-notch.

Gordon

interesting....prices HAVE come down since I was last asked..that was
back around 2000


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Old April 15th 13, 08:02 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Andy Burns
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7 wrote:

Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?
London - need one urgentish.


4K install plus extra for any digging.

25K/year if you really want 100Mbps 24x7, or 10k/year for 20Mbps
"burstable" to 100Mbps.

Much cheaper to rent a server in the cloud as people have suggested
previously.


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Old April 15th 13, 10:30 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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7 submitted this idea :
Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?

London - need one urgentish.


If you're in the FlexZone.....fill yer boots.

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home...ereductions.do


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Old April 15th 13, 10:51 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Anyone know BT price approx of 100Mbit lease line?

Gordon Henderson wrote:

In article ,
7 [email protected] .com wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:


London - need one urgentish.

with internet?
or just point to point?
Info several years old, but would expect 50k with internet



Just pure internet with 5 fixed IP addresses to run a couple of servers
only. 50K is out of order for today.
I understood these days it was good enough for small business to purchase
(not knowing what that really means) because of fiber to cabinet.


FTTC/FTTP is still carried over BT's contended wholesale network. Leased
lines are typically un-contended (with symetric speeds, no caps,
etc. ie. proper Internet access) - the contention set by the ISP not
the carrier.

And there are dozens of not 100's of ISPs other than BT to give you this
service too.

Expect to pay somewhere in the region of 0-3500 for the install and
probably round about 1000/month for 100Mb/sec service. That's based
on prices in Devon - it should be a lot cheaper in London. I mostly use
HNS for leased lines - http://www.hns.net/ Going to the ISP can often
be advantageous as they have deals with the fibre carriers, so don't
need to be dependant on the carrier for the actual data.

For an instant quote, try he http://clueless.aa.net.uk/etherquote.cgi
but prices do vary and AAISP are typically at the expensive end of the
market, however their support is generally top-notch.

Gordon


You are 100% correct Gordon, except for the 'a lot cheaper in London'
bit, because it is same price.
+VAT on top. I rang up BT today.

And the fiber must be routed to the nearest fiber hub - the FTTC is
for the BT Infinity / broadband services only.

Really that is still way out of order for today.

I mean I got 1500 users clicking and 3GB transfer last week and the
site hasn't even gone live yet - with just two pages up.

I remember how hard it was to get 30 people to click in a day
because most don't have computers or knew how to use a browser.

Today everybody clicks.

Easily 10,000+ clicks just merely announcing something.
Nearly are non paying customers who click because
they got a mobile, tablet or a puter and can click.

The world has changed from 5 years ago big time.
For a small company, its easily several gigabytes
of content a day served with the hoards clicking away
hearing about stuff as it happens online and coming
to investigate.

Content is king now, so having videos, photos,
blogs, manuals, instructions, datasheets and booklets
online is the sort of minimum starting point for
a business of 2 persons wanting to engage the
public in dialog so that they eventually understand
what it is you sell, how they can use it, and so part
with some money and buy something.

That is the way the market has developed now.
But I don't understand why BT don't supply
100Mbit more cheaply.

1. BT don't display prices online for leased line,
so no one can plan to buy
their services. The prices are given when you ring up. But that
so yesterday. There is no online engagement that could leads to
some discussions and possible snap orders.

2. BT have may be 30 orders for 100Mbit line per day
which is absolute pittance because that clearly
indicates the barrier to 100Mbit is too high.
All they have to do is announce 100Mbit leased line trials
for 100 pounds per month for a limited area, and watch the orders flood in
to gauge the super levels of interest to then
start doing the right things.

3. ISPs are living in the past. They charge far too much
for serving up content. Prices are right for web sites
of 5 years back, but today, content is king.
You got to have videos and datasheets and stuff that people want
to engage with before they feel ready to part with money.
We all have digital cameras to generate tons of content.
It all needs to be served up - we can't live in the past.

4. Many of the services ISPs offer are so limited to
achieve nothing beyond what you might do yesterday.
Content is king, and they are no longer servants of the king.
I don't understand any of the gibberish they offer.
I can set up servers and make online available
1TB of data with facilities like BT infinity
more cheaper than what ISPs can ever hope to match
if they stick to yesterday's prices.
Anyone can download about 3GB+ per hour with such
an arrangement so why should anyone pay like hundreds
of dollars for a similar service from ISPs that are so
many times more inefficient?


As I said before, the MBA's (read non-techies)
that run today's tech businesses are not suited
for the technical challenges of today's changing
market. And this is only going to get worse
as other countries race faster with their high speed
leased lines. 99% of all small UK businesses will
not be represented in this new world because they
ain't got the fast internet connections to their
offices to put in the high content services.

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Old April 15th 13, 11:01 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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7 wrote:

Today everybody clicks.


But why do you seem to think it's necessary for the clicks to arrive at
your house (or office), why not send them to a datacentre?

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Old April 15th 13, 11:03 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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on 15/04/2013, 7 supposed :
You are 100% correct Gordon, except for the 'a lot cheaper in London'
bit, because it is same price.
+VAT on top. I rang up BT today.


You probably want to avoid BT Retail...they're not known for passing on
Wholesale price reductions to the End User.

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home...ereductions.do


 




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