A Broadband and ADSL forum. BroadbanterBanter

Welcome to BroadbanterBanter.

You are currently viewing as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today.

Go Back   Home » BroadbanterBanter forum » Newsgroup Discussions » uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband)
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband) (uk.telecom.broadband) Discussion of broadband services, technology and equipment as provided in the UK. Discussions of specific services based on ADSL, cable modems or other broadband technology are also on-topic. Advertising is not allowed.

Removing firmware on modem router



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 22nd 13, 02:24 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
andy stone
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Removing firmware on modem router

Someone has terminated their internet connection with Be (because they have
sold up to sky) and Be say they do not need to return the modem router to
them. Zen internet provider said they can use the modem with their service
provided its not locked down.

When ringing Be technical support they say it has their firmware on it, but
it can be removed.

Is this a difficult thing for a novice to do, removing firmware?


  #2  
Old May 22nd 13, 03:26 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Pete
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Removing firmware on modem router

andy stone brought next idea :
Someone has terminated their internet connection with Be (because they have
sold up to sky) and Be say they do not need to return the modem router to
them. Zen internet provider said they can use the modem with their service
provided its not locked down.

When ringing Be technical support they say it has their firmware on it, but
it can be removed.

Is this a difficult thing for a novice to do, removing firmware?


First of all, why don't you just try going into the router management
pages (192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1 or 192.168.1.254 or some such - may
even be a label on the bottom of the router giving the IP address and
username/password, which could be admin/admin) and change the login
details to that of the new ISP? May not need firmware changed at all.


  #3  
Old May 22nd 13, 03:44 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Nick Leverton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 101
Default Removing firmware on modem router

In article ,
andy stone wrote:
Someone has terminated their internet connection with Be (because they have
sold up to sky) and Be say they do not need to return the modem router to
them. Zen internet provider said they can use the modem with their service
provided its not locked down.

When ringing Be technical support they say it has their firmware on it, but
it can be removed.

Is this a difficult thing for a novice to do, removing firmware?


Removing firmware would be quite a bad idea and would produce a slim,
elegant paperweight. What Be might, perhaps, have meant is to update
their specific firmware with something more generic for the router.
I believe some Be routers are locked to their own firmware though so
you'd have to check the model number in more detail and see what firmware
might be available for it.

Once you've found something you want to install, that should be quite
simple using the router's firmware update web interface. There is always
a little "will it reboot or have I bricked it" frisson when the lights
stop flashing, but you'll soon get used to the fun of that and to doing
factory resets :-)

The Be firmware has various specific scripts to set things up for their
network but given that ADSL is all pretty much of a muchness, I'd agree
with just trying it as-is first anyway.

Nick
--
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
  #4  
Old May 22nd 13, 04:58 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Andrew Benham
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 302
Default Removing firmware on modem router

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:24:28 +0100, andy stone wrote:

Someone has terminated their internet connection with Be (because they
have sold up to sky) and Be say they do not need to return the modem
router to them. Zen internet provider said they can use the modem with
their service provided its not locked down.

When ringing Be technical support they say it has their firmware on it,
but it can be removed.

Is this a difficult thing for a novice to do, removing firmware?


I'm a BE customer. BE have supplied a number of modem/routers over the
years - all from the same company, variously known as Speedtouch/Thomson/
Technicolor.

Some of these models have locked firmware - in the sense that you can
only install firmware provided by BE, and specifically *not* in the sense
that you can only use the firmware on a BE connection.
Other ISPs do this as well so you have to use firmware which they
provide, but there's nothing to stop you from using their firmware with
any other ISP. Other ISP use generic firmware, and you can't install an
ISP's locked firmware on such a modem/router.

I suggest the solution is to ask Zen if they have a template for the
model concerned. If so, install that template and use it in the wizard
to configure the device for Zen. If there's no template, it's worth
looking at
http://forums.modem-help.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=9301

If you're brave and have a JTAG cable, it's possible to unlock the device
so that you can use generic firmware on it - Google for "firmware unlock
TG585v7" (or whichever model it is). But generic firmware might not be
the right answer for you - e.g. do Zen provide firmware, and if so is it
locked as well (so you might want to unlock from BE and then lock to
Zen) ?
  #5  
Old May 22nd 13, 05:51 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,728
Default Removing firmware on modem router

On 22/05/13 14:24, andy stone wrote:
Someone has terminated their internet connection with Be (because they have
sold up to sky) and Be say they do not need to return the modem router to
them. Zen internet provider said they can use the modem with their service
provided its not locked down.

When ringing Be technical support they say it has their firmware on it, but
it can be removed.

Is this a difficult thing for a novice to do, removing firmware?


usually you overwrite it with a new image.


--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

  #6  
Old May 22nd 13, 09:28 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
alexd
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,765
Default Removing firmware on modem router

Nick Leverton (for it is he) wrote:

The Be firmware has various specific scripts to set things up for their
network but given that ADSL is all pretty much of a muchness, I'd agree
with just trying it as-is first anyway.


One thing it won't have is anywhere to put in the PPP username/password, as
Be don't use them.

--
http://ale.cx/ (AIM:troffasky) )
21:28:14 up 52 min, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.13, 0.30
Qua illic est reprehendit, illic est a vindicatum

  #7  
Old May 22nd 13, 10:47 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Andrew Benham
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 302
Default Removing firmware on modem router

On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:28:44 +0100, alexd wrote:

Nick Leverton (for it is he) wrote:

The Be firmware has various specific scripts to set things up for their
network but given that ADSL is all pretty much of a muchness, I'd agree
with just trying it as-is first anyway.


One thing it won't have is anywhere to put in the PPP username/password,
as Be don't use them.


BE don't use PPP, but "their" firmware still has support for it. You can
configure PPP from the command line, or (much easier) install a template
which knows about PPPoA.
  #8  
Old May 23rd 13, 12:54 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Graham.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 876
Default Removing firmware on modem router

On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:47:36 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Benham
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:28:44 +0100, alexd wrote:

Nick Leverton (for it is he) wrote:

The Be firmware has various specific scripts to set things up for their
network but given that ADSL is all pretty much of a muchness, I'd agree
with just trying it as-is first anyway.


One thing it won't have is anywhere to put in the PPP username/password,
as Be don't use them.


BE don't use PPP, but "their" firmware still has support for it. You can
configure PPP from the command line, or (much easier) install a template
which knows about PPPoA.


Also BE use VCI=101

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%
  #9  
Old May 23rd 13, 01:04 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Graham.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 876
Default Removing firmware on modem router

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:24:28 +0100, "andy stone"
wrote:

Someone has terminated their internet connection with Be (because they have
sold up to sky) and Be say they do not need to return the modem router to
them. Zen internet provider said they can use the modem with their service
provided its not locked down.

When ringing Be technical support they say it has their firmware on it, but
it can be removed.

Is this a difficult thing for a novice to do, removing firmware?


I have a Thompson router supplied by BE still in its box somewhere, I
prefer to use an old Netgear G834MN with DG Team firmwhere.

However, when I briefly looked at the Thompson, although I didn't much
like the interface, I saw nothing in it as supplied, that would lead
me to believe it wasn't configurable for any normal ADSL provider.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%
  #10  
Old May 23rd 13, 07:44 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
alexd
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,765
Default Removing firmware on modem router

Andrew Benham (for it is he) wrote:

BE don't use PPP, but "their" firmware still has support for it. You can
configure PPP from the command line, or (much easier) install a template
which knows about PPPoA.


For a novice, doing it from the CLI or with a template [whatever one of
those is] = doesn't support it.

--
http://ale.cx/ (AIM:troffasky) )
19:42:30 up 23:06, 4 users, load average: 1.21, 1.23, 1.22
Qua illic est reprehendit, illic est a vindicatum

 




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to update Modem Firmware? Paul uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband) 1 July 19th 07 01:16 PM
Upgrading firmware (1.1 to 1.8) on BT Voyager 2005 ADSL modem - Web interface broken Clive uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband) 4 October 26th 05 10:53 PM
3Com modem/router updated firmware Grant uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband) 2 October 23rd 04 11:33 AM
modem info from Alcatel firmware robert w hall uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband) 0 July 13th 04 09:59 AM
How to flash firmware in D-Link DSL-300G+ modem? Matt West uk.telecom.broadband (UK broadband) 5 November 27th 03 12:54 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.4.0
Copyright 2004-2020 BroadbanterBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.