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Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT



 
 
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Old November 2nd 14, 06:04 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT
-----------------------------------------------------------

The next generation of modems and routers that act as
gate keepers to consumer broadband internet connections
needs to be hugely improved if IoT is to take off properly.

The problem is that in order for IoT to work properly,
all the devices that act as gate keeper between
the internet and the consumer's LAN
is just not up to the job of providing effortless
configuration for IoT devices to work correctly.

To set up basic IoT devices like mail server, web server,
IP webcam, IP door locks or anything
in between takes a lot of effort in itself,
followed by a similar effort with low spec routers
and modems working blind through protocols
like http, telnet, RS232, or some other idiocy
to configure those gate keeper devices to allow
internet traffic through to the IoT device.

This cannot go on forever.

The gatekeeper devices such as ADSL, DSL and SDSL modems
need to change so that routing
functions and modem functions are all integrated into
one device and there should be a LCD display on these
things to configure them more easily when IoT devices
are added to the local LAN.

The idea of ports needs to be replaced with
unique service names that can handle
a 64 bit identifier for unique names.
There are going to tons of new service names for IoT
devices if they are to take off.
There aren't enough ports to handle this kind of traffic.

The idea of ip address also need to replaced with
unique host names.

And all of it allocated completely automatically
by ISP so that users are not left figuring out what IP numbers
and tables they need to set up and where.
Just stick with named hosts and names prototcols
and let the user interface on LCD screens take
care of the connection details between hosts using
protocols specific to IoT devices.

So when you purchase an IoT camera, and connect
to the gate local LAN, it should just be a matter
of going down to the gate keeping device,
see which devices have come online, and select
which protocols are to be allowed through.

All ISPs should be compelled to bundle a unique
host id with each customer they issue
an ip address so that it is easy for the
gate keeping devices to know what their names
are even if the IP address is dynamic so that
IoT devices from far away can connect with
an IoT device in the home (such as VoIP and video
phones) without having to deal with dynamic ip
addresses.

In all the ISPs and must elevate themselves
to a new level where they are friendly to
IoT devices by issuing host names to internet
lines they sell, and issuing smarter modems
with touch LCD displays to configure IoT devices
to connect with one or two touches.

The developers of modems and routers need
to get together with IoT makers to ask what it is
they need from these gadgets to make IoT work better
with one/two touch configuraton.

It may take deregulation and change of law
that currently prevents municipal internet companies
from being set up and which allows encumbants to sue
municipalities if they do, to get this better deal.
All agreements that may have existed between encumbants
and municipalities should also be automatically be dissolved
within a year to make way for new internet with IoT
and all its benefits to the public leading the charge.

Its more money, trade and jobs for the economy
to let this happen. It costs practically nothing to bring
in the changes as it doesn't make existing equipment redundant.
The massive boost in trade and tax revenues
makes it is well worth the effort.




  #2  
Old November 2nd 14, 07:14 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
White Spirit
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

On 02/11/14 18:04, 7 wrote:

The next generation of modems and routers that act as
gate keepers to consumer broadband internet connections
needs to be hugely improved if IoT is to take off properly.


The problem is that in order for IoT to work properly,
all the devices that act as gate keeper between
the internet and the consumer's LAN
is just not up to the job of providing effortless
configuration for IoT devices to work correctly.


To set up basic IoT devices like mail server, web server,
IP webcam, IP door locks or anything
in between takes a lot of effort in itself,
followed by a similar effort with low spec routers
and modems working blind through protocols
like http, telnet, RS232, or some other idiocy
to configure those gate keeper devices to allow
internet traffic through to the IoT device.


This cannot go on forever.


The gatekeeper devices such as ADSL, DSL and SDSL modems
need to change so that routing
functions and modem functions are all integrated into
one device and there should be a LCD display on these
things to configure them more easily when IoT devices
are added to the local LAN.


The idea of ports needs to be replaced with
unique service names that can handle
a 64 bit identifier for unique names.
There are going to tons of new service names for IoT
devices if they are to take off.
There aren't enough ports to handle this kind of traffic.


The idea of ip address also need to replaced with
unique host names.


And all of it allocated completely automatically
by ISP so that users are not left figuring out what IP numbers
and tables they need to set up and where.


What you really mean is, you find it too difficult to configure network
devices so think that it needs to be simplified for everyone. Not
everyone finds it as challenging as you and people who work in the
field, as opposed to talking about it, have no difficulty in this area.




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Old November 2nd 14, 07:49 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
7
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

White Spirit wrote:


What you really mean is, you find it too difficult to configure network
devices so think that it needs to be simplified for everyone.



I would expect a woman like you to say nothing less.

So I recommend you read the original post troll, and weep if you must:



Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT
-----------------------------------------------------------

The next generation of modems and routers that act as
gate keepers to consumer broadband internet connections
needs to be hugely improved if IoT is to take off properly.

The problem is that in order for IoT to work properly,
all the devices that act as gate keeper between
the internet and the consumer's LAN
is just not up to the job of providing effortless
configuration for IoT devices to work correctly.

To set up basic IoT devices like mail server, web server,
IP webcam, IP door locks or anything
in between takes a lot of effort in itself,
followed by a similar effort with low spec routers
and modems working blind through protocols
like http, telnet, RS232, or some other idiocy
to configure those gate keeper devices to allow
internet traffic through to the IoT device.

This cannot go on forever.

The gatekeeper devices such as ADSL, DSL and SDSL modems
need to change so that routing
functions and modem functions are all integrated into
one device and there should be a LCD display on these
things to configure them more easily when IoT devices
are added to the local LAN.

The idea of ports needs to be replaced with
unique service names that can handle
a 64 bit identifier for unique names.
There are going to tons of new service names for IoT
devices if they are to take off.
There aren't enough ports to handle this kind of traffic.

The idea of ip address also need to replaced with
unique host names.

And all of it allocated completely automatically
by ISP so that users are not left figuring out what IP numbers
and tables they need to set up and where.
Just stick with named hosts and names prototcols
and let the user interface on LCD screens take
care of the connection details between hosts using
protocols specific to IoT devices.

So when you purchase an IoT camera, and connect
to the gate local LAN, it should just be a matter
of going down to the gate keeping device,
see which devices have come online, and select
which protocols are to be allowed through.

All ISPs should be compelled to bundle a unique
host id with each customer they issue
an ip address so that it is easy for the
gate keeping devices to know what their names
are even if the IP address is dynamic so that
IoT devices from far away can connect with
an IoT device in the home (such as VoIP and video
phones) without having to deal with dynamic ip
addresses.

In all the ISPs and must elevate themselves
to a new level where they are friendly to
IoT devices by issuing host names to internet
lines they sell, and issuing smarter modems
with touch LCD displays to configure IoT devices
to connect with one or two touches.

The developers of modems and routers need
to get together with IoT makers to ask what it is
they need from these gadgets to make IoT work better
with one/two touch configuraton.

It may take deregulation and change of law
that currently prevents municipal internet companies
from being set up and which allows encumbants to sue
municipalities if they do, to get this better deal.
All agreements that may have existed between encumbants
and municipalities should also be automatically be dissolved
within a year to make way for new internet with IoT
and all its benefits to the public leading the charge.

Its more money, trade and jobs for the economy
to let this happen. It costs practically nothing to bring
in the changes as it doesn't make existing equipment redundant.
The massive boost in trade and tax revenues
makes it is well worth the effort.

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Old November 2nd 14, 09:18 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:49:58 +0000, 7 wrote:

White Spirit wrote:


What you really mean is, you find it too difficult to configure network
devices so think that it needs to be simplified for everyone.



I would expect a woman like you to say nothing less.

So you've already proven yourself to be a homophobe 7 = Joseph
Michael.
Now you seem to be demonstrating that you are a woman hater as well.

No surprise there, at least from looking at your walrus like picture.

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Old November 2nd 14, 09:58 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
Melzzzzz
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:04:22 +0000
7 [email protected] .com wrote:

Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT
-----------------------------------------------------------


The idea of ports needs to be replaced with
unique service names that can handle
a 64 bit identifier for unique names.
There are going to tons of new service names for IoT
devices if they are to take off.
There aren't enough ports to handle this kind of traffic.

The idea of ip address also need to replaced with
unique host names.


Port identifies protocol (there aren't that many) and ip address
identifies particular host. I see only problem with ipv4 (32bit
address), but what's wrong with ipv6 (128bit addresses)?
You can't use host/protocol name in ip packet as it is
unnecessary bloat...

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Old November 2nd 14, 10:01 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
7
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

flatfish+++ wrote:

N



This looks like an internet troll like you flat farce needs
to read the original post again and weep like a good troll:



Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT
-----------------------------------------------------------

The next generation of modems and routers that act as
gate keepers to consumer broadband internet connections
needs to be hugely improved if IoT is to take off properly.

The problem is that in order for IoT to work properly,
all the devices that act as gate keeper between
the internet and the consumer's LAN
is just not up to the job of providing effortless
configuration for IoT devices to work correctly.

To set up basic IoT devices like mail server, web server,
IP webcam, IP door locks or anything
in between takes a lot of effort in itself,
followed by a similar effort with low spec routers
and modems working blind through protocols
like http, telnet, RS232, or some other idiocy
to configure those gate keeper devices to allow
internet traffic through to the IoT device.

This cannot go on forever.

The gatekeeper devices such as ADSL, DSL and SDSL modems
need to change so that routing
functions and modem functions are all integrated into
one device and there should be a LCD display on these
things to configure them more easily when IoT devices
are added to the local LAN.

The idea of ports needs to be replaced with
unique service names that can handle
a 64 bit identifier for unique names.
There are going to tons of new service names for IoT
devices if they are to take off.
There aren't enough ports to handle this kind of traffic.

The idea of ip address also need to replaced with
unique host names.

And all of it allocated completely automatically
by ISP so that users are not left figuring out what IP numbers
and tables they need to set up and where.
Just stick with named hosts and names prototcols
and let the user interface on LCD screens take
care of the connection details between hosts using
protocols specific to IoT devices.

So when you purchase an IoT camera, and connect
to the gate local LAN, it should just be a matter
of going down to the gate keeping device,
see which devices have come online, and select
which protocols are to be allowed through.

All ISPs should be compelled to bundle a unique
host id with each customer they issue
an ip address so that it is easy for the
gate keeping devices to know what their names
are even if the IP address is dynamic so that
IoT devices from far away can connect with
an IoT device in the home (such as VoIP and video
phones) without having to deal with dynamic ip
addresses.

In all the ISPs and must elevate themselves
to a new level where they are friendly to
IoT devices by issuing host names to internet
lines they sell, and issuing smarter modems
with touch LCD displays to configure IoT devices
to connect with one or two touches.

The developers of modems and routers need
to get together with IoT makers to ask what it is
they need from these gadgets to make IoT work better
with one/two touch configuraton.

It may take deregulation and change of law
that currently prevents municipal internet companies
from being set up and which allows encumbants to sue
municipalities if they do, to get this better deal.
All agreements that may have existed between encumbants
and municipalities should also be automatically be dissolved
within a year to make way for new internet with IoT
and all its benefits to the public leading the charge.

Its more money, trade and jobs for the economy
to let this happen. It costs practically nothing to bring
in the changes as it doesn't make existing equipment redundant.
The massive boost in trade and tax revenues
makes it is well worth the effort.




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Hiring low pay online trolls is ignorant.

Those hiring online trolls are too afraid to make a statement
in person in case their ******** got cut off and sold
on ebay for 2 cents. The directors of companies that set up trolling
corporations are themselves afraid of ebay.

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so they fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The lastest insertions of NSA trolls
is in the courier business. If you are thinking of ordering stuff
through Fedexx or UPSs or any US based courier
then be sure to give it a miss. The NSA trolls and their
equivalents have been inserted in there to pass up information
to corporate thieves. They can order
up disruption to your deliveries, especially if you are open
source company. Typically stuff goes missing whenever
there are important samples being couriered around, or when
there is about to be some important event taking place.

With trolls inserted into every fabric of socienty, USA is become
the world's top trolling nation.

It doesn't end there.

Even the NSA and GCHQ is afraid of internet trolling corporations
like Burson Marstelar and their parent company with its 100,000 trolls.
They should be hacking them because it is their job
to get the inside dirt on every politician, and powerful businesses
that rely on trolling corporations. These internet trolling corporations
have more information than governments that is worthwhile for the
power it has over the running of the world than any other internet treasure
worth its weight in gold.

Nearly all foul mouthed trolling across all of usenet and forums
originates from the USA trolling industry.
The same ones screaming abuse against Americans
are the same ones screaming abuse at the rest of the world.
The US politician is proud because without their
daily dose of illegal funding through charities, and the
services of industrial strength trolling machinery,
they would be out flipping burgers for a living.

Troll friendly usenet sites like eternal-september.org
banned by att.net, ameritech.net, bellsouth.net, pacbell.net
and prodigy.net for its foul mouth and lies over trolling
and off topic spammer friendly posting policies against
the usenet charter of all known groups is where all of
the trolling problems begins.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
Companies like Eedleman also run fake survey companies
and delete everything except outlying data to fake their reports
to add legitimacy to their trolling campaigns.

The US trolling companies now set up branch offices
in foreign countries like Netherlands
and UK to post illegally and subversively what is
handed down the chain of command leading all the way to
fake charities and marketing trolls
shielded illegally behind big corporations in US.
Wikileaks tells us 5% of all US diplomatic activity is to
do with Appil and Micorshaft trolls and their
trolling armies controlling US diplomatic services
at tax payer expense as their personal puppets.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music mafia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies. What would you do if you were
forced into a shelter and all your charity
money was stolen from your charity?
You are down and they still want to steal YOUR CHARITY MONEY?!??
Thats right you would tell them NEVER and tell
them fsck off in no uncertain terms and get the law changed
to make it a criminal offense to steal charity money
or spend it on anything other than 100% certified peer reviewed charity
without kickbacks, without creative accounting and
without morally unjust criminal behavior within
the charity system.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstroturfing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610. Burson-Marstelar
won the contract performing all the activities
required in the solicitation with fantastic usenet software
tools for targeting individuals and trolling 24/7
and all built in outsourced India.


----------------------



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographically
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear to
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


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United States
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
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Primary Point of Contact.:
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Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111

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Old November 2nd 14, 10:48 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.embedded,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.politics.misc
White Spirit
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Default Next gen gate keeper modem/routers need improvement for IoT

On 02/11/14 21:18, flatfish+++ wrote:

On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:49:58 +0000, 7 wrote:


White Spirit wrote:


What you really mean is, you find it too difficult to configure network
devices so think that it needs to be simplified for everyone.


I would expect a woman like you to say nothing less.


So you've already proven yourself to be a homophobe 7 = Joseph
Michael.
Now you seem to be demonstrating that you are a woman hater as well.


No surprise there, at least from looking at your walrus like picture.


It makes me laugh that he thinks 'woman' is an insult. As you say, he
probably resents them for rejecting him his entire life.




 




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