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Have BT made a change?



 
 
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Old August 25th 17, 08:11 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
NY
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"Woody" wrote in message
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The farmer concerned has been tld by BT that they will be laying fibre
down the main road past his access road this Autumn and that he will then
be able to have proper high speed (for which he is supposedly paying
noew.)


I thought you were going to say that although there is going to be fibre
going right past his access road, he would not be able to connect to it.

It reminds me of the village in Wensleydale where my parents have a cottage.
In the 1970s or 80s, at great inconvenience to the village, one of its only
two access roads was blocked for ages while the Gas Board
(pre-privatisation) laid a gas main to transport gas between Leyburn and
Catterick/Richmond. The village wanted gas. One of the farmers offered to
dig a trench for a spur pipe, using his JCB, but the Gas Board wouldn't hear
of it: they wanted to charge an extortionate rate to get their own
contractors to dig the trench, when the farmer would have dug it for free.
This is quite apart from the cost of the pipe itself and the spurs to
individual houses, which is skilled work which can only be done by qualified
gas installers, but at least the farmer was trying to reduce the overall
cost by doing the unskilled trench-digging.

It's galling to know that a gas main runs a few hundred yards from the
village, but the cost of connecting to it would be astronomical when divided
by the two farms and 8 other houses in the village.

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Old August 25th 17, 10:08 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"NY" wrote in message
o.uk...
"Woody" wrote in message
news
The farmer concerned has been tld by BT that they will be laying
fibre down the main road past his access road this Autumn and that
he will then be able to have proper high speed (for which he is
supposedly paying noew.)


I thought you were going to say that although there is going to be
fibre going right past his access road, he would not be able to
connect to it.

It reminds me of the village in Wensleydale where my parents have a
cottage. In the 1970s or 80s, at great inconvenience to the village,
one of its only two access roads was blocked for ages while the Gas
Board (pre-privatisation) laid a gas main to transport gas between
Leyburn and Catterick/Richmond. The village wanted gas. One of the
farmers offered to dig a trench for a spur pipe, using his JCB, but
the Gas Board wouldn't hear of it: they wanted to charge an
extortionate rate to get their own contractors to dig the trench,
when the farmer would have dug it for free. This is quite apart from
the cost of the pipe itself and the spurs to individual houses,
which is skilled work which can only be done by qualified gas
installers, but at least the farmer was trying to reduce the overall
cost by doing the unskilled trench-digging.

It's galling to know that a gas main runs a few hundred yards from
the village, but the cost of connecting to it would be astronomical
when divided by the two farms and 8 other houses in the village.


The likelihood is that it will be running at high pressure - the main
pipeline for instance runs at around 80 bar or about 1200psi - and it
takes a lot of reducing.



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Old August 25th 17, 11:13 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
Michael Chare[_2_]
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On 25/08/2017 09:43, PeeGee wrote:
On 25/08/17 09:08, Woody wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
Woody wrote:

I'm sure dslchecker.bt.com used to show the length of the line

I don't remember it ever giving that info.


Something did and I'm sure it was that site.

I have been helping a farmer in E Somerset with his broadband and
putting in any one of his three line numbers came up with a line
length of 2906m or something like that - but on a good day he can just
about get 3Mb although more commonly just under 2Mb which is a bit
puzzling.

Mind you I don't have a lot of faith. The site also shows him to be
connected to cabinet 2 which has FTTC capability but there are no
cabinets on the small rural exchange to which he is connected, only
pole-top DPs. Cabinet 2 is on the central exchange for the nearby main
town and is farther away from his exchange than he is! Dslchecker also
says that 300Mb FTTC is available to him - oh no it isn't. His serving
exchange doesn't even have 21CN, only ADSL.

I'll find it one day.



ISTR it was(is?) available on one of the 17070 options - 3 or 4?

Phil


It was available via 17070. BT deleted the facility when it became
popular for people to use to find out how well their broadband might work.

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Old August 26th 17, 10:01 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Default Have BT made a change?

"Woody" wrote in message
news

"NY" wrote in message
o.uk...
"Woody" wrote in message
news
The farmer concerned has been tld by BT that they will be laying fibre
down the main road past his access road this Autumn and that he will
then be able to have proper high speed (for which he is supposedly
paying noew.)


I thought you were going to say that although there is going to be fibre
going right past his access road, he would not be able to connect to it.

It reminds me of the village in Wensleydale where my parents have a
cottage. In the 1970s or 80s, at great inconvenience to the village, one
of its only two access roads was blocked for ages while the Gas Board
(pre-privatisation) laid a gas main to transport gas between Leyburn and
Catterick/Richmond. The village wanted gas. One of the farmers offered to
dig a trench for a spur pipe, using his JCB, but the Gas Board wouldn't
hear of it: they wanted to charge an extortionate rate to get their own
contractors to dig the trench, when the farmer would have dug it for
free. This is quite apart from the cost of the pipe itself and the spurs
to individual houses, which is skilled work which can only be done by
qualified gas installers, but at least the farmer was trying to reduce
the overall cost by doing the unskilled trench-digging.

It's galling to know that a gas main runs a few hundred yards from the
village, but the cost of connecting to it would be astronomical when
divided by the two farms and 8 other houses in the village.


The likelihood is that it will be running at high pressure - the main
pipeline for instance runs at around 80 bar or about 1200psi - and it
takes a lot of reducing.


That's a fair point, but the people whose houses/farms fronted onto the road
with the pipe got a gas supply at a normal connection fee, which suggests
that British Gas subsidised the cost of any pressure-reduction equipment for
those individual houses (and they were each about half a mile apart, so they
probably didn't share one reduction device).

 




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