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VoIP with existing wiring and an NTE5c

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Old October 23rd 18, 02:07 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Andrew Benham
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Default VoIP with existing wiring and an NTE5c

On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 12:13:03 -0400, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:19:53 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 07:54:27 -0000 (UTC), Andrew Benham

On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:24:36 -0400, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 22:38:45 -0000 (UTC), Andrew Benham

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:50:53 +0100, Graham. wrote:

Is it possible to dial anything at all on the A&A line like 999 112 or

I'll let you know when the migration to an A&A copper pair has happened.
AIUI the copper pair has a repeating voice message from Adrian saying
"Kelly Kowboys, hands off this line". I don't think there's dial tone,
and at the foot of
it states "We do not allow any calls in or out"

The A&A "Naked DSL" line for my VDSL service has a dial tone and can reach
17070, 999, and 0800 numbers so, most interestingly, the 0808 access numbers
for dial-around services 18866, 18185 and 1899 with the result that you can
actually dial virtually anyone anywhere. Only the "no calls in" is true.

Interesting. On such outbound calls, what calling line ID is presented to
the called party ? And what does 17070 report as your number - same
or different ?

The same number as is also shown at the top of the A&A Control page.

Is it a NGN or a geographic number, and if the latter does the STD
code tally with the actual location?

My number is 020 7938 xxxx which is exactly right for the BT Kensington
Green exchange in London W8.

My AAISP line takeover and port existing number to VoIP happened yesterday.
The copper pair has a new number 020 8364 xxxx which is geographically
correct for Winchmore Hill. Currently this number accepts incoming calls
and allows free calls out - which is not what AAISP expect. There's a
further order gone in to BT from AAISP this morning in an attempt to
get it right.
A phone line which has dial tone but doesn't permit chargeable calls
(e.g. to the speaking clock) is /exactly/ what the Kelly Kowboys would
decide to reuse.

Old October 23rd 18, 02:10 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
Andy Burns[_5_]
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Default VoIP with existing wiring and an NTE5c

Andrew Benham wrote:

A phone line which has dial tone but doesn't permit chargeable calls
(e.g. to the speaking clock) is/exactly/ what the Kelly Kowboys would
decide to reuse.

I'd have thought a dialtone would be enough to deter them, and that a
"naked" DSL line without a dialtone would be a perfect victim for them?

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