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VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.



 
 
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Old August 14th 18, 04:52 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
tony sayer
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.


Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.
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Tony Sayer


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Old August 14th 18, 05:34 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
Brian Gaff
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

In a few years time, maybe, but at the moment most phones are just that,
phones and you need a little dongle supplied by the voip company. Some Voip
companies may well sell you a telephone like you need but I'm not sure they
can work universally, ie not tied to a provider.
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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.
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Tony Sayer




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Old August 14th 18, 05:38 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
John Rumm
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

On 14/08/2018 15:52, tony sayer wrote:

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.


Would not just about any smartphone with VoIP software on it not fit the
bill?


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Old August 14th 18, 06:42 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
R. Mark Clayton[_2_]
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

On Tuesday, 14 August 2018 16:38:47 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/08/2018 15:52, tony sayer wrote:

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.


Would not just about any smartphone with VoIP software on it not fit the
bill?


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Cheers,

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Yes - most Android phones will run Zoiper or similar. My [retired] Nokia N79, N8 and current Samsung S8 all support Voip native either over Wi-Fi or 3/4G, so I have a 'movable' geographic number as well as the mobile one.
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Old August 14th 18, 06:43 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
Nick Odell
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

On 14/08/18 16:38, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/08/2018 15:52, tony sayer wrote:

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.


Would not just about any smartphone with VoIP software on it not fit the
bill?

I agree. When I wanted a Skype phone some years ago I found it was
cheaper and more versatile to buy a cheap smartphone (Moto E, since you
asked) and run it without a sim card.

To the OP: is there anything unusual about the VoIP service you want to use?

Nick

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Old August 14th 18, 07:13 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.voip,uk.d-i-y
David Woolley
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

On 14/08/18 15:52, tony sayer wrote:

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.


WiFi generally has too much jitter to handle voice well. Whilst that
sort of thing hasn't been known to stop marketing departments, do you
really want to encourage them?
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Old August 14th 18, 10:12 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip
stephen
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:13:16 +0100, David Woolley
wrote:

On 14/08/18 15:52, tony sayer wrote:

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.


WiFi generally has too much jitter to handle voice well. Whilst that
sort of thing hasn't been known to stop marketing departments, do you
really want to encourage them?


a link to some WiFi starting points, possibly with some marketing....
https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi...voice-programs

FWIW the jitter isnt WiFi specific - it is more that WiFi access in
some cases tends to be both contended and lossy for traffic.

Some of the later WiFi standards support QoS / priority schemes which
can help voice to degrade a bit more gracefully in the face of
congestion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_WLAN

- but lots of interference or overlapping systems trampling on each
other will make voice unuseable.

WiFi channel is the default for laptops at work.

We use a lot of Skype voice for internal calls and voice conferencing
and although it isnt perfect (or as well engineered as a mobile or
DECT, or a fixed VoIP phone on a LAN), it works well enough most of
the time that even offices with 100+ users in small areas with a good
enterprise WiFi build can support lots of simultaneous calls.

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Old August 14th 18, 10:14 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
John Angus
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.



"tony sayer" wrote in message
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Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.


Almost all mobile phones can be used like that.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.


Ditto.

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Old August 14th 18, 10:22 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
Rod Speed
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

Brian Gaff wrote

In a few years time, maybe, but at the moment most phones are just that,
phones and you need a little dongle supplied by the voip company.


No you donít with what you call a dongle.

Some Voip companies may well sell you a telephone like you need but I'm
not sure they can work universally, ie not tied to a provider.


There are plenty of voip phones sold by operations
like Siemens, but not many that connect using wifi.

But almost all mobile phones will do voip over wifi.

"tony sayer" wrote in message
news

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.
--
Tony Sayer




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Old August 14th 18, 11:17 PM posted to uk.telecom.voip,uk.telecom,uk.d-i-y
The Natural Philosopher
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Default VoIP Handset that uses a wi-fi connection rather then wired?.

On 14/08/18 15:52, tony sayer wrote:

Very much as above anyone know of a VoIP handset portable cordless phone
that has a base unit it charges from BUT the connection to the Internet
is by wireless wi-fi rather then wired i.e. plugging into a router?.

Or come to that one that connects directly to the net by your home
wi-fi?.

Any info appreciated.

Thats called an Iphone on wifi calling or whatsapp..


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