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  #21  
Old April 7th 19, 01:33 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
Lucifer
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 12:56:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 07/04/2019 12:50, Lucifer wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:08:14 +0000, MissRiaElaine
wrote:

Picked up the phone to make a call earlier on and the line was totally
dead, no dial tone, nothing, even at the master socket.

Strange thing is, broadband is still working perfectly, no speed drop or
anything. I know that sometimes one leg of the line can become
disconnected, but when that's happened before I've had a significant
drop in speed.

Anyone got any ideas..? We are on FTTC with Sky and of course their
so-called "help" desk has gone home...


With FTTC the phone works through the Internet.


Completely wrong of course..


With fibre to the curb the phone uses VOIP.

The phone needs to be connected to the modem.


Completely wrong of course

It won't work if connected directly to the cable.


Completely wrong of course.


With fibre to the curb the phone is no longer connected to
the local exchange.

That should have been explained to you when you were switched
from ADSL.

BT and ISPs are not noted for telling utter rubbish.


Completely wrong of course.

What happens is that copper goes to the cabinet, where IP traffic
(VDSL) is taken to to the DSLAM.


With fibre to the curb there is no cabinet.
You might be thinking of fibre to the node. (FTTN)

The copper than continues to the exhange. A break in this last leg will
kill phone traffic but not broadband.


The local exchange is not used with FTT?.
  #22  
Old April 7th 19, 01:35 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
Lucifer
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:15:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 07/04/2019 13:04, Lucifer wrote:
With Fibre To The Curb/Connection point, the phone is provided
via the same connection as the data. The original exchange is no
longer used.


There is no such service in the United Kingdom
FTTC is Fibre to the Cabinet.


You are talking about FTTN.


Being replaced by FTTP = Fibre to the Premises.



Please note that these are UK specific newsgroups.

  #23  
Old April 7th 19, 03:39 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
Brian Gregory[_2_]
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On 07/04/2019 13:33, Lucifer wrote:
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 12:56:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 07/04/2019 12:50, Lucifer wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:08:14 +0000, MissRiaElaine
wrote:

Picked up the phone to make a call earlier on and the line was totally
dead, no dial tone, nothing, even at the master socket.

Strange thing is, broadband is still working perfectly, no speed drop or
anything. I know that sometimes one leg of the line can become
disconnected, but when that's happened before I've had a significant
drop in speed.

Anyone got any ideas..? We are on FTTC with Sky and of course their
so-called "help" desk has gone home...

With FTTC the phone works through the Internet.


Completely wrong of course..


With fibre to the curb the phone uses VOIP.

The phone needs to be connected to the modem.


Completely wrong of course

It won't work if connected directly to the cable.


Completely wrong of course.


With fibre to the curb the phone is no longer connected to
the local exchange.

That should have been explained to you when you were switched
from ADSL.

BT and ISPs are not noted for telling utter rubbish.


Completely wrong of course.

What happens is that copper goes to the cabinet, where IP traffic
(VDSL) is taken to to the DSLAM.


With fibre to the curb there is no cabinet.
You might be thinking of fibre to the node. (FTTN)

The copper than continues to the exhange. A break in this last leg will
kill phone traffic but not broadband.


The local exchange is not used with FTT?.


You're not in the UK then.

Here FTTC is fibre to the curbside cabinet, which is on your phone line
at a point much nearer you than the telephone exchange.

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  #24  
Old April 7th 19, 03:41 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
Brian Gregory[_2_]
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On 07/04/2019 13:04, Lucifer wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:11:52 +0000, Brian Gregory
wrote:

Without FTTC broadband the twisted pair from your home goes to your PCP
where it is connected to one pair in a multi twisted pair cable that
runs onward to the exchange.


That applies to FTTP, FTTB, FTTC, and the more common FTTN.

When you get FTTC broadband the connection in the PCP is broken and
diverted via a short multi twisted pair cable to the nearby fibre
cabinet (typically no more than 20 yards away). Another twisted pair in
the short multi pair cable brings the phone only part of your line back
from the fibre cabinet and is joined in the PCP to your original pair in
the multi twisted pair cable that runs to the exchange.


With Fibre To The Curb/Connection point, the phone is provided
via the same connection as the data. The original exchange is no
longer used.


Utter rubish.

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  #25  
Old April 7th 19, 04:56 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
MissRiaElaine[_2_]
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On 07/04/2019 13:35, Lucifer wrote:
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:15:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 07/04/2019 13:04, Lucifer wrote:
With Fibre To The Curb/Connection point, the phone is provided
via the same connection as the data. The original exchange is no
longer used.


There is no such service in the United Kingdom
FTTC is Fibre to the Cabinet.


You are talking about FTTN.


Not in the UK. You still haven't said where you are.

Being replaced by FTTP = Fibre to the Premises.


Possibly, depending on area. There are currently no plans to introduce
residential FTTP here in this part of Scotland.


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  #26  
Old April 7th 19, 05:03 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
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On 07/04/2019 13:33, Lucifer wrote:
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 12:56:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 07/04/2019 12:50, Lucifer wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:08:14 +0000, MissRiaElaine
wrote:

Picked up the phone to make a call earlier on and the line was totally
dead, no dial tone, nothing, even at the master socket.

Strange thing is, broadband is still working perfectly, no speed drop or
anything. I know that sometimes one leg of the line can become
disconnected, but when that's happened before I've had a significant
drop in speed.

Anyone got any ideas..? We are on FTTC with Sky and of course their
so-called "help" desk has gone home...

With FTTC the phone works through the Internet.


Completely wrong of course..


With fibre to the curb the phone uses VOIP.

The phone needs to be connected to the modem.


Completely wrong of course

It won't work if connected directly to the cable.


Completely wrong of course.


With fibre to the curb the phone is no longer connected to
the local exchange.

That should have been explained to you when you were switched
from ADSL.

BT and ISPs are not noted for telling utter rubbish.


Completely wrong of course.

What happens is that copper goes to the cabinet, where IP traffic
(VDSL) is taken to to the DSLAM.


With fibre to the curb there is no cabinet.
You might be thinking of fibre to the node. (FTTN)

The copper than continues to the exhange. A break in this last leg will
kill phone traffic but not broadband.


The local exchange is not used with FTT?.

Fibre to te curb is not a term or a technologuy that is used in the UK

So you are being clever and wrong

In the UK FTTC=Fibre to the cabinet


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  #27  
Old April 7th 19, 05:04 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
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On 07/04/2019 13:35, Lucifer wrote:
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 13:15:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 07/04/2019 13:04, Lucifer wrote:
With Fibre To The Curb/Connection point, the phone is provided
via the same connection as the data. The original exchange is no
longer used.


There is no such service in the United Kingdom
FTTC is Fibre to the Cabinet.


You are talking about FTTN.


No, since we are in the UK.

Here the product and the technology is called FTTC.




Being replaced by FTTP = Fibre to the Premises.



Please note that these are UK specific newsgroups.



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  #28  
Old April 7th 19, 09:52 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
Vir Campestris
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On 07/04/2019 13:33, Lucifer wrote:
The local exchange is not used with FTT?.


You've got a bigpond address. That puts you on the wrong side of the
planet for uk newsgroups. But at least explains why you can spell curb...

Over here FTT-anything goes via the local exchange.


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  #29  
Old April 7th 19, 10:17 PM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
Java Jive
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On 07/04/2019 21:52, Vir Campestris wrote:

On 07/04/2019 13:33, Lucifer wrote:

The local exchange is not used with FTT?.


Every single statement that you've made in this thread contains errors,
so clearly you know SFA about POTS, ADSL, and FTT[CP] in the UK.

You've got a bigpond address. That puts you on the wrong side of the
planet for uk newsgroups. But at least explains why you


can't

spell


kerb.

So, as seemed obvious from its first post, this is a troll, probably Rod
'idiot' Speed, probably because it's got bored of being plonked, and
therefore ignored, in other uk.* ngs, so it's looking for another ng to
inflict its childish and moronic stupidity upon.

Over here FTT-anything goes via the local exchange.


Of course it does.
  #30  
Old April 8th 19, 06:14 AM posted to uk.telecom,uk.telecom.broadband
The Natural Philosopher
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On 07/04/2019 22:17, Java Jive wrote:
So, as seemed obvious from its first post, this is a troll, probably Rod
'idiot' Speed, probably because it's got bored of being plonked, and
therefore ignored, in other uk.* ngs, so it's looking for another ng to
inflict its childish and moronic stupidity upon.


A reasoanble working hypothesis.


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