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Weak wfi signal Bob Henson wrote: Jeff Gaines wrote: On 17/02/2020 in message Andy Burns wrote: NY wrote: The phone will connect if it is about a yard from the router but loses the connection when it is moved further away. The wifi analyzer app tells me that the signal strength is 75dBm At that sort of distance my phone has the needle rammed hard into the 40dBm stop at the green end of the scale ... I have never been able to understand why it's "" 40 dBm. Is there an idiot's guide to how signal strength is measured? The replies to your message, whilst informative and I'm sure correct (thanks, chaps!), conclusively prove to this layman that it's one of the daftest systems of measurement since Avoirdupois weights and the old British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Nothing daft about pounds, shillings and pence! Did wonders for the numeracy of our generation. ;) I assume it's an attempt to represent an inverse square law in a linear manner, but I'm no mathematician and/or physicist, so that probably proves my ignorance totally. In the unlikely event that I am correct, then I stand by my former incredulity. Agree with you about he rest though. Tim  Please don't feed the trolls 
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Weak wfi signal On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:22:00 Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (Bob Henson) wrote: British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Simple system to understand. Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies, or 20 shillings). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea. The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated. You have made it more complicated than necessary!! David  David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK 
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Weak wfi signal "David Rance" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:22:00 Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (Bob Henson) wrote: British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Simple system to understand. Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies, or 20 shillings). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea. The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated. You have made it more complicated than necessary!! No, our ancestors made £sd more complicated than it needed to be by choosing *multiple* bases: 12 and 20, and shunning the one base that makes sense: 10 (given that we have 10 fingers incl thumbs). OK, so we also invented nicknames for some coins (tanner, bob, florin, crown) but that's just an added thing that a foreigner has to learn about our system. Interesting that noone's invented names for any of the decimal coins  or at least, not ones that are universally understood in common parlance. The past has a lot to be proud and nostalgic about, but the imperial system and the £sd monetary system are things about which we should hang our heads in shame. *Any* system which isn't based on the base in which we count (10) is fatally flawed. OK, you've got the base 2 and base 16 notations used in computing, but at least that is a specialised field, and at least it uses additional symbols (letters AF) to denote values which require two decimal digits to express. 
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Weak wfi signal David Rance wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:22:00 Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (Bob Henson) wrote: British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Simple system to understand. Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies, or 20 shillings). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea. The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated. You have made it more complicated than necessary!! David Not a lot, though. We were indescribably happy in retail business the day we got decimalised coinage. Gentlemen's trouser pockets lasted 10 times as long when we got rid of the old "copper" coins too  albeit the "keep fit" benefits of carrying that amount of weight around was lost. The old penny was around the size of Don Quixote's shield :) (Old Fidonet Joke!)  Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England I thought I was getting more patient with advancing years  turns out I just don't give a damn. 
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Weak wfi signal In article . uk, Paul Cummins wrote: British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Simple system to understand. Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. The twoshillling florin is not traditional British money. It was introduced as the first step to decimalization in 1849. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies, or 20 shillings). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea. The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated.  Richard 
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Weak wfi signal "PeeGee" wrote in message o.uk... The past has a lot to be proud and nostalgic about, but the imperial system and the £sd monetary system are things about which we should hang our heads in shame. *Any* system which isn't based on the base in which we count (10) is fatally flawed. OK, you've got the base 2 and base 16 notations used in computing, but at least that is a specialised field, and at least it uses additional symbols (letters AF) to denote values which require two decimal digits to express. It was far more flexible than decimal coinage: 100 is divisible by 2, 4, 10, 25 and 50: 240 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16 (and the results of those divisions) plus the divisions giving farthings and ha'pennies! It depends whether those extra factors are useful to shopkeepers. You'd tend to start with an item price of 1, 2, 3, ..., etc pence (old or new) and multiply by the number of items bought. Divisibility by 3, 4, 8, 12, 15, 16 is only useful if you work backwards, starting with a multiitem price of (for example) £1, and want integer prices in (old) pence for one unit. Bases 9, 12 and 16 do have their uses for packaging items, because they lead to square or almostsquare packages (3x3, 4x3 or 4x4 cans of backed beans in a box) , whereas a pack of 10 will tend to be long and thin (5x2 tins of baked beans in a box). It would have been (bean?!) so much easier if we'd adopted base 12 rather than 10 as our basic counting base (together with new digits for 10 and 11 in base 10), then we'd have had the advantage of sqaure(ish) packaging and yet simple calculations. But a mixture of base 10 for counting and base 8, 12, 14, 16 (anything *except* base 10) for measurement units is a recipe for overcomplicated calculations. I have great difficulty doing metal arithmetic at the best of times (I need a pen and paper so I can keep track of all the carry/borrow digits), but the thought of doing it on mixed base 12/20 for £sd calculations would be sheer mental torture. 
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Weak wfi signal In message . uk, Paul Cummins writes In article , (Bob Henson) wrote: British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Simple system to understand. Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies, or 20 shillings). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea. You omitted to say that a sixpenny coin was also known as a 'Tanner', and Half a Crown was sometimes called 'Half a Dollar' (on the basis that, at one time, (Spanish) dollars were worth around five bob). Also, some called a 'Thrupenny (Threpenny) Bit' a 'Threpenny Diddler'. And, of course, a pound is still a 'Quid'. The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated. Given 24 hours, I could still revert to LSD.  
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Weak wfi signal In article , David Rance writes On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:22:00 Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (Bob Henson) wrote: British coinage system of pounds, shillings and pence. Simple system to understand. Two farthings = One Ha'penny. Two ha'pennies = One Penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies, or 20 shillings). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea. The British resisted decimalized currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated. You have made it more complicated than necessary!! David No he missed out the crown.  bert 
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