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Old July 22nd 20, 08:02 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
tim...
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Will the old wired BB be turned off?

My Fibre is to be activated on Friday

but I've yet to receive the router

could be without a connection for the whole weekend

(Yes, booking it on a Friday was a silly idea)


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Old July 22nd 20, 08:06 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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On 22/07/2020 08:02, tim... wrote:
Will the old wired BB be turned off?

My Fibre is to be activated on Friday


What sort of fibre ? FTTC, FTTP, or Virgin ?

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Old July 22nd 20, 10:10 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 22/07/2020 08:02, tim... wrote:
Will the old wired BB be turned off?

My Fibre is to be activated on Friday


What sort of fibre ? FTTC, FTTP, or Virgin ?


FTTC



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Old July 22nd 20, 11:44 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
R. Mark Clayton[_2_]
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On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 10:12:01 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 22/07/2020 08:02, tim... wrote:
Will the old wired BB be turned off?

My Fibre is to be activated on Friday


What sort of fibre ? FTTC, FTTP, or Virgin ?


FTTC


Well then it is still copper or the dire thin aluminium wires from the cabinet to your place.
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Old July 22nd 20, 11:49 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 10:12:01 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 22/07/2020 08:02, tim... wrote:
Will the old wired BB be turned off?

My Fibre is to be activated on Friday


What sort of fibre ? FTTC, FTTP, or Virgin ?


FTTC


Well then it is still copper or the dire thin aluminium wires from the
cabinet to your place.


Probably not aluminium wires if his current system is ADSL?

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Old July 22nd 20, 01:08 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Recliner wrote:

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Probably not aluminium wires if his current system is ADSL?


Certainly can be. Locally Openreach technicians are forever fixing
broken wires that are inadvertently damaged by their colleagues and when
asked they tell me it's because some are aluminium, but their records
tell them they they are all copper.



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Old July 23rd 20, 12:19 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
R. Mark Clayton[_2_]
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On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 11:49:06 UTC+1, Recliner wrote:
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 July 2020 10:12:01 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On 22/07/2020 08:02, tim... wrote:
Will the old wired BB be turned off?

My Fibre is to be activated on Friday


What sort of fibre ? FTTC, FTTP, or Virgin ?

FTTC


Well then it is still copper or the dire thin aluminium wires from the
cabinet to your place.


Probably not aluminium wires if his current system is ADSL?


Mine are from the hole in the road to my place.

Used to suffer frequent "underground" faults, usually after heavy rain.
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Old July 23rd 20, 05:35 PM
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Who was your previous provider? Who have you switched to? In some situations you can use your existing equipment. If you have been with your old ISP for years it's not likely to be backwards compatible. Try googling your routers model number.
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Old July 22nd 20, 11:51 AM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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tim... wrote:

Mark Carver wrote:

tim... wrote:

Will the old wired BB be turned off?
My Fibre is to be activated on Friday


What sort of fibre ? FTTC, FTTP, or Virgin ?


FTTC


Your copper phone line only supports voice plus one of ADSL or VDSL at
the same time. At the moment you line will be jumpered through the old
green cabinet as far as both voice and data are concerned to the exchange.

On Friday (or whenever) an engineer will rejumper your line to go via
the new green cabinet, from there the data part will go over fibre back
to the exchange, while the voice part goes back to the old cabinet and
back to the exchange the same as it does now for voice calls.

If your existing router is ADSL only, your internet will be inactive at
that point until you replace it with the VDSL router, which hopefully
will have arrived by then.

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Old July 22nd 20, 11:53 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband
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Andy Burns wrote:
Your copper phone line only supports voice plus one of ADSL or VDSL at
the same time. At the moment you line will be jumpered through the old
green cabinet as far as both voice and data are concerned to the exchange.

On Friday (or whenever) an engineer will rejumper your line to go via
the new green cabinet, from there the data part will go over fibre back
to the exchange, while the voice part goes back to the old cabinet and
back to the exchange the same as it does now for voice calls.


That's likely the case for the OP on Plusnet, but just to note that
Openreach have a product called SOGEA where there is no voice jumper to the
exchange (they may leave an existing one in place but it is unused). The
ISP provides voice service via a phone socket on the router, which runs as
VOIP over the VDSL broadband connection. Sky among others use this for new
orders in some regions.

This is part of Openreach's plan for decommissioning the analogue voice
network, by moving to all-data connections. The exchange is then no longer
handling voice calls - they're all in VOIP soft-switches.

Theo
 




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