On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:55:00 +0000, Paul Cummins wrote:
In article ,
ard (Jonathan Buzzard) wrote:
And how are you exepcted to tell from a picture whether the subject
is 14, 15, 16 or 17. two of those ages are legal in any event, yet
the photo could still be of a teen.
Well a group entitled
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teans.firsthair
or alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teans.hardcore would by
definition contain illegal material. There is no way on earth that you
can describe 16 as being early teans
Lets see now...
13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.
16+ gives 4 years of teenage after 16th birthday, but only 3 years
before. IF we consider the early/late split to be 16 years and 6 months,
then there could legally be 'early' teans (sic) in the groups you cite.
If they existed. They do not.
Which conveniently ignores the mid teens. Someone who is 16 cannot
reasonably be described as being in their early teens.
Furthermore, how do you know the content, of the two groups that do most
closely resemble those names, is illegal? Have you examined the content
of the groups? Consider your answer carefully...
No I have not examined the contents of the said groups for obvious
reasons.
and anything before that is illegal.
In the UK, yes. Are you certain that nay UK provider is offering illegal
pictures in the UK. Again, be careful before you answer.
I am not certain, but the names of the groups are highly suggestive
that they are carrying illegal material.
Further more a group alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pussy.firsthair is
also by definition going to contain illegal material. It does not
take a genius to realize that the average age that girls first get
pubic hair is much less than 16, even when we figure in a couple
of standard deviations into the mix.
Why would a picture of cats growing hair be illegal? And what do kittens
have to do with teenage girls? Last time I looked bestiality was illegal
but erotic pictures of animals were not. Whatever turns you on, I say.
I can assure you I am no apologist for paedophilia, but a 15 yr old girl
posing for 'dirty' pics taken by her 15 yr old boyfriend is not
something that the law is likely to concern itself with.
The law however does concern itself with it.
Now if you can
tell me that these groups contain very young teens being abused, then I
will agree with your concerns. But at that point, you will be contacting
the police, and stop pontificating here.
There is no requirement for abuse for the material to be illegal.
So, to close, the relevant questions a
1) How do you know the content, of the two groups that do most closely
resemble those names, is illegal? Have you examined the content of the
groups? Consider your answer carefully...
I don't.
2) Are you certain that nay UK provider is offering illegal pictures in
the UK? Again, be careful before you answer...
I don't.
I wonder, under the circumstances, whether I should consider a PACE
caution at this stage...?
No need, I have not looked at the groups in question
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Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk
Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44 1661-832195